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03-24-2010 , 01:41 AM
hi
following some advice from the learned fellow poker players on here,ive started to grind 3.25 45man sngs.
and its going really well
,after around 350games in 470 up and running at 39.6roi,itm;20%(i know its a small sample size)
,now i know in reality this level of roi isnt very sustainable in the longterm,or so conventional wisdom leads me to believe
but i feel i can maintain a roi of 30%in these longterm.
my day is spend playing a min 40 of these a day(5tabling)(with 1tourny a day)
going up to 300 a week,hoping to get £300,at 30%..

basically does this plan seem firstly a good one??
secondly are my goals meetable??
thirdly if you yourself are grinding these(or similer games90s/18/180s),,then what sort of roi are you guys averaging??

thank you in advance you lovely poker playing people

raven jet byrne(the hellmuth of the microstakes)
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03-24-2010 , 01:53 AM
long term u cant make money in sngs, games are dead.
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03-24-2010 , 01:56 AM
Just try it. Play a bunch, play well, seek advice on important hands, see how it goes.
gl
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03-24-2010 , 01:57 AM
what do you mean the games are dead?
theres so many terriblr players early in these games,and if u play right then i think there profit to be made,
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03-24-2010 , 01:58 AM
nope, confirmed that everyone is solid in sngs.
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03-24-2010 , 02:04 AM
due i hope ur joking
there are regs you run into game after game doing the same things ur trying to do,but there are also so terrible players at 3/45 trust me im playing them everyday and there are many exploitable weakness,
do u play these games?
trust me when i say there poft to be made if u play them with the right stratagy..of this im am of no doubt,,
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03-24-2010 , 02:25 AM
thats just variance man, games are dead
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03-24-2010 , 02:30 AM
well thanks for your bleak opinion,
i shall now go and hang myself
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03-24-2010 , 02:32 AM
30% might be sustainable if you only play 5 tables idk, some people have 25% or more 20+ tabling

IMO play more, think less, become a bot, profit $$$$ ohh and study gl
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03-24-2010 , 02:35 AM
Wow almost an hour into the thread and no one has mentioned Trees or Queens based Rapper/Moviesuperstars yet.
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03-24-2010 , 10:07 AM
yeah i think the advantage of only 5 tabling is you can develop reads on most players,which can go a long way in a tight spot.

this idea that there is an army of perfect players at the 3/45 level is pretty nieve,,
there really isnt..but there are some solid regs who are multing so many they are pretty robotic and i think tabling less gives me a slight edge anyways.i definatly feel that i have a skill edge at this level.

sngs can be profitable many people make livings playing these,,ive made 1.3k playing 2.8sngs,and thats not variance,,

au maverick u strike me as the sort of guy who would very much enjoy telling your kids that not only does santa not exist but you strangled him with your bare hands whilst they slept and you did for them,,
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03-24-2010 , 10:13 AM
games are dead. every1 is solid. i can pull out my graph if u dont believe me.
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03-24-2010 , 10:21 AM
really,well then show me your graph sir

people can be very negative on here

its funny i started playing these 3/45 on the recommendation of fellow players on 2+2.
and im beating the games through skill(im certainly not running insanly well or anything)
it makes me wonder if im playing in the same game,
ive been marvelling at the crapness of players ealry in these things,yet according to you "everyones solid,games dead",well for you it may be but for me its very much alive

show me graphs;
tell me a better use of my time(which would be something positve and constructive
elaborate on why you think the games are dead and back it up something
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03-24-2010 , 10:27 AM
"games are dead" is a running joke around here when people ask questions about ROIs
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03-24-2010 , 10:31 AM
oh i see,
poker players have pretty strange senses of humour,,
i was this close to ending it too,,i was even going stand on a chair, stick an orange in my mouth too,
shame
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03-24-2010 , 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by raven byrne
oh i see,
poker players have pretty strange senses of humour,,
i was this close to ending it too,,i was even going stand on a chair, stick an orange in my mouth too,
shame
but good thing that isnt funny

and fwiw, ~20-25% is prolly right
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03-24-2010 , 10:43 AM
I just posted this in the 45s thread over in MTTC, but here's a decent sample at $3s for you, most of the volume was put in over last summer while starting 12-16 tables and not starting new ones when busting. On average I was only 2-4 tabling the FTs and I think there's a lot of value to have reads there.

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03-24-2010 , 10:47 AM
thank you mate
thats really useful
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03-24-2010 , 10:51 AM
35%-40% 30 tabling should be possible imo.
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03-24-2010 , 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Gimmidaloot7
35%-40% 30 tabling should be possible imo.
[ ] possible
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03-24-2010 , 10:55 AM
^ Maybe not for you

[X] Possible
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03-24-2010 , 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Gimmidaloot7
^ Maybe not for you

[X] Possible
Possible a year ago, not sure about now tho
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03-24-2010 , 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by martin_malin
30% might be sustainable if you only play 5 tables idk, some people have 25% or more 20+ tabling

IMO play more, think less, become a bot, profit $$$$ ohh and study gl
Pretty much this
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03-24-2010 , 10:58 AM
Username Games Played Av. Profit Av. Stake Av. ROI Total Profit Form Ability /100 Network Filter
valkyri3 515 $0 $3 1% $21 Super Tilt N/A PokerStars 3/1/2010 3/24/2010 E45-45 SNG Only


[x] games are dead
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03-24-2010 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by valkyri3
Username Games Played Av. Profit Av. Stake Av. ROI Total Profit Form Ability /100 Network Filter
valkyri3 515 $0 $3 1% $21 Super Tilt N/A PokerStars 3/1/2010 3/24/2010 E45-45 SNG Only


[x] games are dead
[ ] knows how to play
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