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01-13-2008 , 11:44 PM
Thread in HSNL in which some guys accused people of cheating on UB in a similar way to the AP cheating **** that came out a few months ago.

One of them, trambopoline, posted this e-mail he says Phil Hellmuth sent him:

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Okay before I call you.......I do have some information right now as I got off the phone with a "very high up". It does seem that there are several superuser accounts that UB has just mentioned to me. They were holding off on announcing it due to reasons I am unaware of, but apparently this is a new strand, like you suspected (and I doubted) of superusers, unlike with the AP scandal. I want to apologize, but keep in mind I was simply a "promotional" figure with them. This is an OFFSHORE company. Apparently it will be very hard to persecute, just as with the AP scandal, since the money has already been withdrawn according to "Kushal" since this did occur several months ago. They are saying that it is most likely they will be UNABLE to retrieve those funds as involved in the dispute. If you have any further questions, follow up in this email, but give it some thought. Thanks for your understanding as they will continue to work as best they can to see what can be done, however as under the agreement when downloading the software "it is an inherant risk" to play online as with any site. Again my apologies for this being pretty embarrassing personally, and also on behalf of UB, sorry for the bad news....
Here's the thread with all the info: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ad.php?t=99247 .

So, ummmm, sounds like UB knew there was cheating going on and just didn't say anything. This isn't 100% conclusive proof until the PH e-mail is confirmed, but this all seems to be very credible.

I know a bunch of you guys have money on there and play pretty high on there, so thought you should know.

Also, we should use whatever power we have over UB to try and get people who knew about this and didn't say anything fired. Boycotts, bad publicity, etc etc. It sucks that we're all part of an unregulated industry that has this much money moves. Doesn't look like the industry will be regulated any time soon, so we have to make it clear to the sites that security is very important and lying to players is intolerable.
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01-13-2008 , 11:47 PM
So does Shaun have a BJ SuperUser account?
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01-13-2008 , 11:48 PM
pretty sure Shaun cashed out his bj monies.
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01-14-2008 , 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by gobbomom
pretty sure Shaun cashed out his bj monies.
rofl
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01-14-2008 , 12:26 AM
doubt anyone is suprised here
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01-14-2008 , 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by bigballz
doubt anyone is suprised here
not at all surprised, was just a matter of time before we found out about UB doing it also.
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01-14-2008 , 01:00 AM
not at all surprised. UB has always shafted its players
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01-14-2008 , 03:29 AM
should we all just quit poker altogether? if its possible with UB and AP, which are pretty big imho, then obviously pokerstars and ftp are CAPABLE of doing the same thing.
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01-14-2008 , 06:01 AM
Definitely seems to be rigged. The winner of the $500 buyin could obviously read his opponents souls imo.
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01-14-2008 , 07:21 AM
The Email wasn't written by Hellmuth, it was some joker (see NVG thread). Which is a shame because I was going to make a great joke about persecute/prosecute.
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01-14-2008 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by THAY3R
Definitely seems to be rigged. The winner of the $500 buyin could obviously read his opponents souls imo.
"I'm gonna flop trips everytime there is a 2 in my hand and also flop quads with JJ>AK aipf obv."
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01-14-2008 , 02:31 PM
i'd be surprised if true, also the emails are BS as has already been posted.
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01-14-2008 , 02:41 PM
P5s has a thread about this aswell. Adam, the main admin there I think, says he was on the phone with Phil Helmuth and he said that it was all BS. But why would trambopoline make up a faulty e-mail in the middle of something so serious and detrimental to getting his $$ back? I think likelihood of UB ****ing up and saying something they shouldn't have only to cover up > Trambop randomly making up an email. I might have some facts wrong, but if not this is how I feel.
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01-14-2008 , 02:49 PM
Seems the story is that trambo got duped by some railtard with that e-mail. Oops.
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01-14-2008 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by NoahSD
Seems the story is that trambo got duped by some railtard with that e-mail. Oops.
Sigh. *crawls in a hole* Yeah I just browse and don't read enough to get opinions about stuff I guess.
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