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Sup Turbo.. folding AK UTG? Sup Turbo.. folding AK UTG?

11-11-2009 , 02:29 PM
I feel more and more like I should be folding AK UTG at the beginning of these Sup Turbos(when no one has been knocked out and blinds are low). The only likely callers when I shove AK UTG are AQ+ and Pocket pairs.

This leaves me beating ONE hand (AQ), *hopefully* splitting a pot with AK, unless its suited and they grab it from me with a flush(which just happened btw :-/), and then coin flipping against PPs that probably are slightly ahead of me anyway.

Sure, I play low stakes where people seem to call wider, but this still seems to hold true alot of the time.
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11-11-2009 , 02:32 PM
I shove AK, 88+ (maybe AQs)
but imma ST fish
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11-11-2009 , 02:35 PM
never

there is no way you are only called by AQ+ and pocket pairs in low stake STs

I've only played a handful but I refuse to believe it

Also, taking the blinds is good when you only have 10bbs.
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11-11-2009 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rwilliamsmb
This leaves me beating ONE hand (AQ), and then coin flipping against PPs that probably are slightly ahead of me anyway.
1. in the low stakes supturbos (3,75$/7,50$) ppl will call ur open shove with worse than AQ and PP´s

2. Its a supturbo, u cant avoid playin a flip for ur "whole" stack
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11-11-2009 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by +QualityControl+
1. in the low stakes supturbos (3,75$/7,50$) ppl will call ur open shove with worse than AQ and PP´s

2. Its a supturbo, u cant avoid playin a flip for ur "whole" stack
+1
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11-11-2009 , 04:46 PM
not shoving AK for 10bbs utg full table is a pretty big leak.
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11-11-2009 , 06:50 PM
who was it that said you can't avoid variance only postpone it?
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11-12-2009 , 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Glitlr
not shoving AK for 10bbs utg full table is a pretty big leak.
If you are playing in games so tough where most people are only calling AQ+ from an UTG shove then no one is going to beat the rake and you need to look more into game selection. Any stakes below the 70s almost never require game selection, which means there are enough bad players to make AK a more than profitable raise. Also, even if you 'accidently' sign up for a game where the very best of the very best super turbo players are there, you should still shove AK. Why? Because if they are only calling hands that AK can beat, then there is such a small percent chance that they are calling that you'll take down an uncontested pot enough to generate a positive expectancy.
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11-12-2009 , 03:06 AM
AK = instashove early on in any level ST....even with an EP raiser/shover
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11-12-2009 , 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by scarypooper5
If you are playing in games so tough where most people are only calling AQ+ from an UTG shove then no one is going to beat the rake and you need to look more into game selection. Any stakes below the 70s almost never require game selection, which means there are enough bad players to make AK a more than profitable raise. Also, even if you 'accidently' sign up for a game where the very best of the very best super turbo players are there, you should still shove AK. Why? Because if they are only calling hands that AK can beat, then there is such a small percent chance that they are calling that you'll take down an uncontested pot enough to generate a positive expectancy.
wat. did you misread glitlrs post or am i missing something?
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11-12-2009 , 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Glitlr
not shoving AK for 10bbs utg full table is a pretty big leak.
I would assume he was quoting glitlr to agree with this statement but was actually replying in more detail to the OP, similar to how I quoted glitlr and am now replying to you.
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11-12-2009 , 08:22 AM
I only came into this thread cos I was like 'wats a sup turbo'? I think writing er would make it far too long a word so I like the abbreviation.

Only played very few super turbos but I am very rarely folding (ie not shoving) AK and possibly AQs either...
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11-12-2009 , 09:25 AM
Fist pump ship
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11-12-2009 , 12:03 PM
Yea. You're all right. I've never actually folded it before either. That was just a really cold streak talking.
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11-25-2009 , 01:38 PM
Do a little dance, then ship AK UTG all day... Get called by QJo in the BB and flip it up...
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