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sunday storm , ak vs 3 bet Ep, TPTK vs call, turn fold is good or bad? sunday storm , ak vs 3 bet Ep, TPTK vs call, turn fold is good or bad?

11-15-2016 , 10:03 AM
Hi guys this is Sunday Storm, blinds 100/200 pot total 480, i have ak in MP and open 3 bb, i get rr 3 bet small from a villain who has 25/15/5.9 over 74 hands . Otf i catch TPTK on a K-J-7 rainbow flop and bet a half bet pot to see where i am. I get a call. the turn a 9 . I check and my op bet half the pot. I fold. My decision to fold turn is made because of this factors. I put my oponnent vs a 3 X bb openning on a 3 bet range 10-10+ AQ. I make a stab at the pot on the flop and get called. With wich hands could my oponennt 3 bet me pre and call flop? JJ is the most possible scenario , Ak is possible but less likely because i have Ak myself , AA and KK possible but same unlikely because i have a Ace and a King in the hand(it much harder for him to flop a pair when somebody has a card ho match his pair). QQ is possible but i dont know if he would called that flop with just medium pair. Under this circumstances i think i am beaten in this point and let go this hand. What hands could i beat? only QQ imo, and i dont think he would 3bet with something like 77 or KQS. Is my line correct? Should i bet turn also?
Should i bet more OTF something like 75% of the pot?
I would also note my imagine at the table is loose aggresive


    Poker Stars, $10 Buy-in (100/200 blinds, 20 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    SB: 17,019 (85.1 bb)
    BB: 2,860 (14.3 bb)
    UTG+1: 15,977 (79.9 bb)
    UTG+2: 17,935 (89.7 bb)
    Hero (MP1): 10,633 (53.2 bb)
    MP2: 20,783 (103.9 bb)
    MP3: 19,130 (95.7 bb)
    CO: 2,152 (10.8 bb)
    BTN: 8,616 (43.1 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K A
    2 folds, Hero raises to 600, MP2 raises to 1,000, 5 folds, Hero calls 400

    Flop: (2,480) 7 J K (2 players)
    Hero bets 1,400, MP2 calls 1,400

    Turn: (5,280) 9 (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP2 bets 2,640, Hero folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: 5,280 pot
    Final Board: 7 J K 9
    Hero mucked K A and lost (-2,420 net)
    MP2 mucked and won 5,280 (2,860 net)
    sunday storm , ak vs 3 bet Ep, TPTK vs call, turn fold is good or bad? Quote
    11-15-2016 , 12:30 PM
    x/c flop, that might slow him down ott and you can bet for value otr
    sunday storm , ak vs 3 bet Ep, TPTK vs call, turn fold is good or bad? Quote
    11-15-2016 , 12:42 PM
    Somewhat exploitable to be folding AK here imo ..
    But I really prefer checking the flop and letting villain cbet/Barrel as opposed to donking the flop.. where u are more likely to scare off any hands he will c bet on this dry board
    sunday storm , ak vs 3 bet Ep, TPTK vs call, turn fold is good or bad? Quote
    11-15-2016 , 10:58 PM
    Preable was tl;dr

    Baffled as to why you would lead the flop? AP definitely not folding turn.
    sunday storm , ak vs 3 bet Ep, TPTK vs call, turn fold is good or bad? Quote
    11-16-2016 , 04:32 AM
    AP not folding turn.

    I would check flop, allow his bluffs and marginal hands to keep betting and under rep our hand.

    With the intention of check calling every street, unless river is an A,K or T then i am going for value.
    sunday storm , ak vs 3 bet Ep, TPTK vs call, turn fold is good or bad? Quote
    11-16-2016 , 07:18 AM
    Having now read the preamble ...

    "To see where I am" is not a reason to bet the flop. As Glaciem says it accomplishes all the wrong things.

    AP even with the 3b range you give him it's very unlikely either AQ or QQ are getting folded on the flop, maybe TT. You have to realise how weird the play is to call the 3b and then lead the flop which smashes his range.

    Finally, don't think V has such a narrow 3b range, although the sizing is scary small. Still, you have to leave room for a little BS in your opponent's range, and lots of V's especially at micros will just take one off on the flop because your line looks dodgy af.
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    11-16-2016 , 01:35 PM
    Since the villain raised you preflop. Why didn't you check to villain on the flop? There is not a flush draw to worry about. And you hold the nuts to a less likely straight draw. I just don't see any reason to donk bet here.
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    11-16-2016 , 04:39 PM
    If you bet the flop then you have to continue betting the turn, I think you have him on way too narrow a range and he just exploited your check OTT. As many have said x/c flop is much better here with the intentions of calling it down
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