suzzer winning the WCOOP Main Event.

The sourcecode for the shuffler.

(although the entire task seems to be pissing in the wind somewhat, since the paranoids aren't going to change their mind.)

ideally. statistical significance testing for how likely the amount each position is off from expected (as trials likely won't give exactly perferct results) would give people a decent idea if the deck has a bias to it, wouldn't it?


i think watching the spikes change as the results are tallied would be fun, and allowing for people to see the tallied results at any point of the n trials to make sure the end graph wasn't just drawn to look like it was supposed to, while probably an information overload to people looking at it, would show unlikely (and possibly nonrandom) outcomes eventually, if they are there.


(I'm pretty tired, maybe most of this doesn't make any sense.)

thats probably the only thing, but then the rigtards will say that now that the source code is public people found a way to influence it or whatever.

That's not going to happen, because the random shuffling process is a significant competitive advantage for PS compared to other sites.

Thanks for the other ideas though, this is helpful.

I think it would be a business mistake to respond to such requests by attempting to prove statistically, or otherwise that the site is not "rigged". I have had a similar problem in business in the past, having had to prove an algorithm was correctly implemented on an IT system in order to satisfy risk managers at an investment bank. The standard solution is to get an independent audit and then release the results of the audit. That way you avoid revealing anything commercially confidential, and also avoid getting into a pissing contest about the quality of your proprietary processes. KPMG or similar are 100% capable of producing such a report for you. When a client questions the randomness, you can then send them the auditor's report - they can write a version suitable for public distribution.

For something as simple as this, they will charge in the order of $250 to $500k.

Finally got around to finishing Season 3 of AD (instead of reviewing for my analysis quiz ldo). So much f'ing win in that show. I hope they do that movie.

Just picked up this show again. I remember watching the first episode, where George pulls Michael aside and whispers in his ear "don't worry...you can't arrest a husband and wife for the same crime", arches his eyebrows a bit, and then Michael replies, "yeah, I don't think that's true..." right then I knew this was going to be my new favorite show.

AD is possibly one of the best shows ever made imo. Amazing characters. Tragedy that they got rid of it.

Take the $250 price. $500k seems a little steep.


Maybe hire a reputable mathematician/computer scientist to do this.

Seems kinda gross to pay a bunch of suits just to hold 50 meetings with a dozen project managers and then hire a 16 year old from India to do it.

OK, so I had to hear about how three of my friends just won $25,000 in cash on SuperBowl squares. They hit half time AND the final. They split (3) $500 squares.

They are the same friends that are always coming into money ($25,000 from their parents for a wedding or an unknown aunt gave them $50,000 in her will, etc etc.)

So over the last 24 hours I was slightly whining about how lucky they are BUT I really just want to let the Powers That Be know that I'm really not complaining, I'm good w/ my life, I don't want to win the lottery or anything like that. Just a little whining.

That's all, k? Thanks.

A dog at around 1-2 years of age is also an idea you should explore. You'll be beyond most of the destructive phases that puppies go through and you will still be able to influence it's behavior through training just the same as the puppy-age dogs.

Remember Lucky?



He was around 1-year when we found him (a stray off the streets-not from a pound) and ~6 months later he is an amazing dog. We've worked hard at training him--but it wasn't hard at all (does that make sense?). All the basic obedience stuff plus some pretty cool advanced obedience. Potty training was a non-issue from day 1 which was amazing in and of itself

From the Ivey sportsbetting thread..

Calling in a favor from all my former sttf buddies. I know this would not be allowed from just about anyone else but hopefully AMT will give me an exception.

I have been hearing alot about the profitability of DON recently, should I be considering coming back to stts? Are they really that profitable?

You can PM me instead of posting if you wish.

If you're making money doing something else, I'd stay away from sngs. If not, go for it.

Full Tilt Poker $11 + $1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP2: t1485
CO: t1500
BTN: t1455
SB: t1515
BB: t1500
UTG: t1545
Hero (UTG+1): t1500
UTG+2: t1500
MP1: t1500

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is UTG+1 with 8 T
UTG raises to t90, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls t90, MP1 calls t90, 2 folds, BTN calls t90, 1 fold, BB calls t60

Flop: (t465) T 8 9 (5 players)
BB checks, UTG bets t330, UTG+2 folds, MP1 raises to t1410 all in, BTN calls t1365 all in, BB folds, UTG calls t1080

Turn: (t4650) J (3 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t4650) 4 (3 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: t4650
BTN shows 8 8 (three of a kind, Eights)
UTG shows 9 9 (three of a kind, Nines)
MP1 shows T T (three of a kind, Tens)
MP1 wins t90
MP1 wins t4560


This is the first Set-over-Set-over-Set (plus 2 one-outers) that i have ever seen


I hope this doesn't qualify as lame BBV.

There's a reason there are a lot of dogs up for adoption around the 1 year age. They are monsters the 1st year and I wouldn't recommend getting a puppy unless you have a yard, free time, and stuff you don't mind getting destroyed.

Be aware that dogs can take up a lot of your time especially when they are younger. We have a 14 month old Lab that takes up 1-2 hours of our day. If we don't take her somewhere to free run(like the dog park), she's an absolute monster. Walks burn about 1/4 the energy she burns at the dog park. Luckily, we are moving in less than a month to a house that has an acre of land.

Cool HH jurrasstoil. I've played a million hands of poker and I'm not sure I've ever seen that.

These audits are a major pain. The code has to be checked, the installation has to be checked (physically); the rest of the system has to be checked to make sure it applies the code correctly; the updating process has to be checked; the management process has to be checked etc. It's not a quick job even for something as modular as the Stars shuffle engine.

I'm sure Stars can negotiate a reasonable price ... lol

It has to be BIG NAME because you need them to put their reputation behind it - I'm sure Stars knows it's system is good - it's just a question of having a mutually trustworthy partner vouch for Stars to any clients who winge.

+1 plus that fact u had 108 wowo

True, but you got to give FOX credit for running it as long as they did. It's not like the show had a huge audience or wide appeal. As far as I remember the show never really became well known until AFTER its cancellation. IMO it's one show I can think of that seems specifically made for the DVD format...to be honest I never really enjoyed the show catching random episodes here and there, you have to see it either on DVD with the episodes in order or to see a 2-3 hour marathon in order to really appriciate it. The first episode I ever saw was the one where Gob is running around the Bluth offices and bragging about how expensive his suit was - I thought it was kinda funny but the humor is so character-dependant that I just felt lost. No doubt many of the people who caught the show while it was still running felt the same way. Of course now that's one of my favorite scenes, but I just remember not really getting it at the time.

Honestly I'm not sure how long AD could have lasted...I remember hearing that the writing staff was cranking out abnormally huge scripts each week and that most of the people who worked on the show put in 70 hour weeks, etc. Right now I think the show's legacy is perfect, and I'm sure they could have finished the 3rd season well, but I kind of wonder where the show could have gone from there. Considering that the writers themselves didn't even really know how many episodes they had left it's pretty damn amazing that the last few turned out as great as they did.

unfortunately i dont have the HH anymore because its been 2 years or so.

was a satellite or something else cheap, nothing of grind no stt.

i was 4way aipf with aq vs kk jj tt

flop jtx river k

no joke.


anyone seen the imaginarium of dr. parnassus ?
i just love the raw anarchy of gilliam and the colourful fantasy.wonderful and beautiful piece of art imo.and i loved the replacements for heath ledger

You're just shuffling cards? where is the competitive advantage there?
Are you saying the the stars shuffle is more random?!?

My favourite hand was when I stacked K9 and 99 on a K9x flop when I had KK.

and they say it isnt rigged! shenanigans i say!