I'm curious what you think the reason is for the ban on gambling if not to pander to the religious right.

And why can't kids get condoms in school?

There obviously is no ban on gambling, just un-regulated gambling. States that choose to allow live gaming are free to do so, as long as it's regulated and duly taxed (re: the lottery, Vegas, Atlantic City, Indian Casinos, church bingo, etc.).

It has nothing to do with Right or Left, more to do with what structure the local governments want to put in place to regulate, control, tax and so forth. Now, once it goes outside state lines, it becomes a Federal issue, thus a National concern.

Since the Left is more apt to raise taxes and grow government and the Right is less inclined to do so, a National concensus won't take place anytime soon.

Kids can't get condoms in school (nor should they) b/c the Left has done such a great job over the years separating church from state that they cannot cut through their own red tape. Much like so many of the social programs that exist for no good reason other than they were originally created using USA Government money to further some regional "cause" that got out of hand.

Anyway, get your condoms from the store and gamble wherever you want. It's a free country. Slacka

How's getting condoms at school related to separation of church and state? Not being a douche, I just really don't get it.

I have the HORSE final on tivo. Is it worth watching for the poker, or is it just a bunch of painful Scotty being an ass moments? I'm not really entertained by that.

Joey is on for a split second in the intro. Prob worth it just for that.

Please read bones' post, which I quoted, to reacquaint yourself with what type of gambling he claimed was not banned because of the religious right.

LOL. Yes, the vote on HR 5767 was unanimous, wasn't it? Not even close to splitting down party lines. And the UIGEA was bipartisan, right?

And dude, the right loves big government, so long as it's all employed in buying tanks.

i'm moving tomorrow and i'm going through a bunch of old papers and **** and just came across my old neteller card. oh the memories

Don't bother then. I only watched the last 45 minutes but all that happens is scotty gets drunk, scotty gets mad, scotty yells, scotty curses, scotty berates, scotty calls down hands that he shouldn't, scotty wins.

Rocktor: Do you now or have you ever been able to gamble on-line?

Wow Slacker.

I guess we have now identified your problem as not wanting to understand.

Obviously, the more available condoms for youngsters, the better.

Still would appreciate an answer. I don't get why younger kids who are going to have sex shouldn't have uber easy access to forms of birth control/protection. If two dumb teens want to **** they are going to do it whether or not they take the appropriate precautions. I know plenty-a-people in my highschool who could of benefited from condoms being sold in the lunch line.

Seems the only reason may be older folks (whether associated with a certain "wing" or not) don't think its "right" to give kids in this country quick/easy access to BC because they feel like they're enabling them by doing so?

I guess we have now identified your problem as not wanting to understand.

Obviously, the more available condoms for youngsters, the better.

Eury: Sigh. I guess you haven't studied enough to understand how things actually work. Some Senator way back when creates some program using initial funding from the US that solves some regional problem in his state.

Then, when the "problem" goes away or is minimized, it becomes the State's responsibility to continue handling the "problem", but without US tax dollars to fund it. So the States then have to raise taxes to continue with a Federal program that is regulated Nationally, mandated by law, but no longer funded.

Shampoo, rinse, repeat hundreds of times and you have tremendous local Federally mandated wasted tax dollars.

I want to see a vid of you purchasing condoms and distributing them in your neighborhood to 12/13 year olds. That would be classic.

Wake up or STFU Eury.

slacker- are you saying sex ed/condoms cost too many tax dollars or what?

No, I guess I'm > 80 IQ which enables me to understand that social programs are created for a reason - most often a valid one. And that there is a great need for social programs in every country, especially so in very segregated countries.

And what is that paragraph about me distributing condoms even supposed to mean?

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Actually a very good question and pretty valid comment in today's age.

Fundamentalists would argue that we were put on the Earth to procreate and to deny or make attempts to stop that process is a "sin". However, they would also argue that there are certain rules that apply (including Holy Matrimony, certain age restrictions, etc.).

While that was the accepted norm in America for many years, some felt that it infringed on their rights and gradually started changing laws to allow for what was previously un-acceptable (in America). Most of these laws have been challenged over the years in courts on the belief that our Constitution is, in fact, not constitutional at all and is subject to change as we see fit as a society.

The fact that our forefathers believed in "One Nation under God" and the seperation of Church and state has caused this dilema over time.

Nobody knows for sure if we governed by the laws of God, or by the rule of man. They knew for sure when our country was formed, but our society has allowed that belief to be diluted, regardless of the legality and intent of the original documents.

So, condoms are a great invention that have prevented a lot of un-wanted pregnancies around the world and a bunch of STD's around the world. Education/distribution in Africa has done nothing to slow the population growth there, nor put a dent in the spread of AIDS btw. So, how does America handle sex/population growth and propegatioin of our society within the confines of our Constitution? That has been the question for a long, long time.

Now, if you take all of of that as my view and political beliefs, so be it. Just answering your question from a historical, factual perspective.

Slacka

What did Slacker answer? I'm confused.

Lol, I seriously doubted that you could understand the answer. Ah well.

And if distributing condoms to random kids is a good idea, then I suggest you try it in your own neighborhood and see how that goes over. Then try justifying it to the moms, dads and authorities.

If everyone thought it was such a great idea, it would already be happening (Federally funded of course) nationwide. Give it a go. Never know......

No I meant, he asked why kids *shouldn't* have access, and you rambled something unrelated. An answer as to why kids shouldn't have access to BC would have been a smarter move.

Your proposition is ludicrous, and I assume you have the mental capacity to understand why. I think condoms should be made available to adolescents free of charge in a number of places. School cafeterias/nurses are probably two such fitting places.

And the last paragraph is possible the dullest one written at 2+2 this week. I really don't think I have to explain why.

Get a clue Eury.

Clearly, the people who are advocating new "social programs" believe that there is a need for them. I'm not convinced that there is any arbitrary way of determining whether it is "valid".

I found that when I was at uni and served as President of the Student Union, implementing a new service was rarely easy (as it should be). People were sceptical of the benefits, and so on. However, once the service was there it was nigh on impossible to ever remove it, thanks to the creation of a bunch of stakeholders who now depended on the service.

Slack- If moms, dads, and authorities had a ****ing clue we wouldnt have this many problems to begin with. Just because something is popular doesnt mean it isnt ******ed, and just because something is unpopular doesn't mean it is.

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Please stop insulting me while committing so many errors yourself.

Nail on the head my friend.

Perhaps we wouldn't have the great numbers of clueless, irresponsible "parents" had our society not strayed from the tenants as set forth in the Constitution to begin with. And then compounded the problem by offering social services as a gift to them for their behavior.......

Just a thought.