Yeah I felt the same way so I just called. River was a 4th spade and he bet something around $150 so I had to fold.

It turns out he had K6 (Bovada hand histories show all hole cards after 24 hours.)

I felt pretty good about the turn but wanted to see if anyone might have played it differently.

if you want to raise most turns....think about how badly that fares for the weaker parts of your range. What are your bluffs when you raise the turn? How are you going to get action? Flop raising plan would be much better
River card is interesting. Against someone good you should at least consider jamming as a bluff (this is one of the best hands to do it with). He did INSIST on thinning the field Although them odds....

$18.15 / 1,62:1 / 38% needed on the turn wug thoughts?
It was a 6max game that broke
villain is a bad reg. He bet/called a 100bb stack off on AJ65Q river with A4 against my rivered KT when flop flush draw missed.
He floated the flop with Q7 on J82 flop turn 5 river 7 and he bet/jammed, not sure as a bluff or wha! So not sure if he overvalues (A4) or undervalues (Q7) hands

Here is my thought process -- please tear it apart if it's ******ed...

I was figuring if he barreled a lot of turns a decent part of his range is an overpair that he might not be able to get away from. A lot of turns keep a pretty dry board dry, and even though a lot of my range is ace high and small/medium pairs he can't expect too many folds if he's barreling air.

On nonspade Q, K, and A I likely would have flatted to keep his bluffs in and he might still value bet most rivers with hands like KQ, AJ, etc. or check/call.

I've only recently started to think about keeping my postflop range balanced. It wasn't a concept I was aware of when I stopped playing a few years ago. I remember Galfond talking about taking actions that keep his range the widest but in the games I was playing at the time it wasn't necessary.

Luckily in these games it's not entirely necessary because lots of players are still bad and nobody has any data. At the most you get a couple of hundred hands on someone and usually less than a hundred. You can pick up on the total fishes right away but it's hard to get a good enough read to exploit tighter more aggressive players.

I'm not good enough to turn my hand into a bluff on the river.

pretty ridiculous spot. Im thinking he wouldnt be likely to play flushes this way because Im likely to check back the turn and if I do bet the turn I often cant stand a c/r...so im capped innit...but when is this ever a bluff... he's just gonna call his 89 and J9. Thoughts on the raise and to call or fold to the click back?

Yeah sick spot. I like how you played it, and then without some kind of read I call. I know he must have QT very often but he could definitely overvalue a rivered two pair and you don't need to be good very often. I click call too often though and also have no clue how the games you're playing in play at the moment.

Two more hands this time Bovada 6-max 100NL

First Hand

115 big blinds effective stacks. Villain seems like a good aggressive player but as per usual on these anonymous tables I have only a small sample.

Preflop
CO opens to $3 and I 3-bet to $10 from the SB with AT and CO flats

Flop
A72
I check villain bets $14 into $21 I call

Turn
A724
check/check

River
A7246
I check and CO bets $36 into $49


In retrospect, I don't like my preflop 3-bet. He seemed to be opening pretty wide and I had been card dead since he joined the table so I thought my raise would get some respect. I think I'm watching too many Eagles vids on RIO but I have to remember I can't play post like he does.

So on the flop I kind of turn my hand face up but I don't really like betting either. Comments?

We get to the river and I think I have to fold but interested in thoughts.



Second Hand

Villain is a calling station weirdo type like 50/18 and weak postflop. I've already had him all in on the turn once for 50bb and he binked a split pot on the river. He's since lost a few small pots so we're at 33bb effective stacks.

Preflop
I open 99 to $3 UTG+1 and villain 3-bets to $5 from the SB everyone folds I call.

Flop
K63
Villain jams $28 into $11

I have to just man up and snap this off correct? I can't begin to pretend what this means other than villain is not very smart.

This is crazy to me.

first hand:
i kinda like the 3bet pre. u said he seem like a good aggressive player so i would assume villain will be opening pretty wide here when folded to in the CO, there fore we widen our 3bet value range. i also think this villain type will "defend" his opening more often IP by flatting.
OTF im pretty cbet happy. i like continuing that exactly wat it looks like ur doing and i think villain is capable of bluff raising. as played c/c is a good option OOP.
the turn throws me off. wat is villains check back range here? small showdown value or air? is it pot control or giving up? nutz?
second hand:
its 33bb ship it pre

I guess on the first hand I should probably c-bet because with the flop so dry he can call with stuff I'm ahead of and maybe it's easier getting to showdown this way or at least easier to play my hand. When he checks back the turn I assume he's either giving up or protecting showdown value himself. I assume he realizes I likely have showdown value but I underrepped my hand (I could easily have TT-->KK) so I'm not sure what he's betting on the river. He could be value betting something I'm ahead of plus he should have some bluffs.

Second hand I'm not sure if shipping pre is good. I guess maybe I give these clowns too much credit because I'm thinking small 3-bet OOP to an EP raise and I should be way behind or flipping. If this was BTN versus blinds or something then it's much easier to just ship imo.

I'm not sure why they do it. With anonymous players it's not like anyone can use it against you. Maybe they feel like the fish will play better if they can see what kind of moves good players are making on them?

Or it's possible they are doing this because a lot of people are afraid of collusion and riggage on an anonymous site, so exposing all hole cards should give some protection against collusion and maybe with enough hands analysis could be done to prove no foul play is going on by the site itself. (There seem to be a larger than normal number of people who think Bovada is rigged.)

It's a flush or air line. That said, how often is someone going to be capable at these stakes to realize your line is almost never a flush and therefore will 3bet you here?

Certainly not the % of time you need to call IMO.

I do think its a raise on the river cause of his sizing.

Ah. I didn't know it was anonymous. Makes more sense.

Those other two spots are hard.

The first one I probably fold river. I would expect him to bet flop and turn if he wanted to push us off KK/QQ type hands. If I thought he was bad I'd be more likely to call because they like bet rivers just because they can't win by checking.

The second one sucks cause of the 3bet. Is AQ in his range?

It was hard to say what his range was. He was playing 50/18 over something like 60 hands but don't really know what his 3-bet range is. I can only get stats and notes for the session so all reads are based on what I've been able to pick up.

I had him all in earlier in a limped pot where he overplayed top pair no kicker. He raised my bet but didn't overbet jam even though in his mind it seemed he thought he had the nuts. That made me even more suspicious of this shove.

ok shoving over the tiny 3bet seems a little much.
4betting and not folding then seems optimal
like 12~14bb

jbrochu,

first hand i would likely call without a read that he wasn't that bluffy. his line looks pretty desperate (or he of course rivered a set) and if he's checking the turn with >AT so be it. i want to call because we've really under represented our hand.

2nd hand i don't think getting it in pre is THAT bad. however some of these guys ARE playing so exploitably that their 3bet = KK+, is he one of them? doesn't sound like it. if i call his 3bet i'm never folding on a dry board with one non-A overcard. so the flop call seems somewhat standard.

I did end up calling the 1st hand primarily because I under-repped my hand and I felt like his range could have some bluffs and smaller aces. He had AQo.

Until I get comfortable playing again I think I'll try to play my hands in ways which make for easier decision making. So for this hand not knowing a lot about villain I think 3-betting his CO open from the blinds probably isn't great with ATo. If he was on the BTN I like it a lot better. Then on the flop I think just betting makes it easier to play as well.

Bovada 6-max NL100, 56 big blinds effective stacks

Villain is something like 50/18 over maybe 30 hands so not a lot to read into it. He isn't full stacked though so he's probably bad. I've had to focus on a bunch of hands on another table so didn't see if he showed down anything strange yet.

Preflop

CO open for $3.50 and I call on the BTN with 77


Flop

T56

CO bets $8.50 into $8.50 and I call


Turn

T568

CO bets $25.50 into $25.50 and has only something around $20 behind.

his betsizing is really bluffy but i don't think you have enough of a read to call

the thing i don't like about 3betting ATo oop is you don't get AJ+ to fold, i would rather 3bet A5s than ATo against a good opponent. but primarily i'm not 3betting light from the sb without better reads than you are getting in this game.

pretty easy fold unless you have a read that he's whacking off stacks. I usually click the replayer if possible to check any of the 30 hands he's played

ATo : dont like the 3bet, i flat oop which I think is okay as long as you have some board coverage. You say he's opening wide, does this mean junky ace -x aswell?
I like how you played flop and turn
River is an interesting spot I think you should check because you have virtually no bluffs if you bet so you shouldnt get action from worse hands against a good opponent and you can rep a scared KK/QQ still . If I check im definitely calling this bet, he can be valuebetting worse sometimes and think you would valuebet AK/AQ type stuff so he puts you on a weaker hand. Its always nice when you get a reg to valuecut himself

he raises to 9.20 with 13.74 behind, reads: passive recreational player

Turn seemed close
I strongly consider turning my hand into a bluff on this river. And not because going crazy with blockers but because he would fold a bare Qx always and I would rep strong. Quite afraid of running into AQ but im sure he wouldnt take this line with AT for example
Villain is 25/13/3% 3bet. He seems ABC, did some weakish stuff like bet small/giveup with 99 in a headsup pot on a TJx board