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12-28-2009 , 01:43 PM
pretty early so no reads.

Poker Stars $20+$2 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 9 players
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CO: t3105 M = 69
BTN: t3030 M = 67.33
Hero (SB): t3060 M = 68
BB: t3000 M = 66.67
UTG: t3000 M = 66.67
UTG+1: t2860 M = 63.56
UTG+2: t2820 M = 62.67
MP1: t3135 M = 69.67
MP2: t5965 M = 132.56

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is SB with Q A
UTG raises to t60, 3 folds, MP2 calls t60, 1 fold, BTN calls t60, Hero calls t45, BB calls t30

Flop: (t300) 2 2 Q (5 players)
Hero checks, BB bets t180, UTG calls t180, MP2 folds, BTN folds, Hero calls t180

Turn: (t840) 2 (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets t180, Hero calls t180, BB raises to t540, UTG calls t360, Hero ?
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12-28-2009 , 01:47 PM
hmm...first instinct was to shove but now that I think about it what cards really scare us on the river? If we shove now we chop a lot I think.

Probably just call and call any rivers and puke if a K falls
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12-28-2009 , 02:18 PM
I don't think shoving on the turn at any point accomplishes anything. I may should have raised the flop. Thoughts ?
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12-28-2009 , 02:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Stro_Sho
I don't think shoving on the turn at any point accomplishes anything. I may should have raised the flop. Thoughts ?
yeah looking closely I can't see a reason to raise the turn.

I think the same reasoning applies to the flop...we have a beautifully underrepped hand and people will be fling more chips with worse at that board. I like the passive flop line cause there are so few scare cards to come for our hand
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12-28-2009 , 02:59 PM
I'm tempted to say iso squeeze pre this deep, but in practice I do flat most of the time esp with no reads on utg. I like the flop flat once BB donks as I generally like inducing on dry wa/wb boards (BB may fold his dominated range to a flop raise). Turn flat planning to station/bet river if checked to seems std too. BB's small c/r is weird because KK+ shouldn't be in his range having flatted a minraise pre. Want to put him on 2/Q/air (he would have to be bad to do this with a Q honestly), tho it would be a really sick bluff for a random 20 fo dude to make so there's prolly not much air if any. UTG's flat of the c/r could be a cautious KK+ line too. Folding seems best to me (call me a nit).
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