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01-19-2010 , 07:20 PM
Reraise pokerjamers whenever possible obv, looks good.
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01-19-2010 , 07:28 PM
I miss this forum. I'll be back someday.
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01-19-2010 , 07:34 PM
idk why ppl are thinking of folding here, im happpppppy shippin AK. AQ might sorta be close to a fold. Im shoving 1010+ AQ+ and i could have a range (uber rare) as light as A10+ 77+ KQ.
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01-19-2010 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by M1cKmAcK
I don't agree with this level of thinking, esp if said reg knows you. Good regs will be shoving on you alot wider than you are prob giving them credit for. It's just such an obvious 3bet spot and good players will recognize this situation and play accordingly.
i agree, what i meant was vs people who i know wont be shoving wide enough.. otherwise i'm just hardly 3betting vs a reg as a bluff
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01-19-2010 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Todd Terry
Reraise pokerjamers whenever possible obv, looks good.
<3
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01-19-2010 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Protential
idk why ppl are thinking of folding here, im happpppppy shippin AK. AQ might sorta be close to a fold. Im shoving 1010+ AQ+ and i could have a range (uber rare) as light as A10+ 77+ KQ.
ummm cool range pro but I have A 9 here?
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01-20-2010 , 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by M1cKmAcK
I don't agree with this level of thinking, esp if said reg knows you. Good regs will be shoving on you alot wider than you are prob giving them credit for. It's just such an obvious 3bet spot and good players will recognize this situation and play accordingly.
a "good reg" isnt sure if he should shove a9o in this particular spot- i know its a 1 hand sample but i think your general assessment that "good regs will be shoving on you a lot wider than you are prob giving them credit for." is just wrong
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01-20-2010 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Protential
idk why ppl are thinking of folding here, im happpppppy shippin AK. AQ might sorta be close to a fold. Im shoving 1010+ AQ+ and i could have a range (uber rare) as light as A10+ 77+ KQ.
this is just waaaay too tight vs pokerjamers

i think this ship is fine, it obv shouldnt be your default vs any reg but pokerjamers is one of the loosest regs so you should def adjust your 4bet shipping range
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01-20-2010 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by GeoffRas22
a "good reg" isnt sure if he should shove a9o in this particular spot- i know its a 1 hand sample but i think your general assessment that "good regs will be shoving on you a lot wider than you are prob giving them credit for." is just wrong
Geoff...I think it is pretty obvious that 4 bet shoving A 9 off with 30BB is not my standard play here. Going back to your original post my move was based off my feel for how Jamers had been playing the table.

When I opened I expected him to 3 bet me and had decided I was shipping and did expect to have a fair amount of FE. Again my plan was based on a faulty assumption that he would see me as a complete random and that he would expect me to 4 bet ship only a very tight range this late in the MTT.
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05-10-2010 , 12:22 AM
i think you should shove
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05-10-2010 , 02:31 AM
bet size pre is hilarious
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05-10-2010 , 02:33 AM
he knows you're never flatting his 3bet with stack sizes and you have a blocker to AA... meh I still nit it up and fold.
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05-10-2010 , 03:00 AM
hof people going along with the 4 month old bump is hof
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05-10-2010 , 03:46 AM
its cute how any thread mentioning pokerjamers he responds to and like zero others lol
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05-10-2010 , 04:27 AM
yeah, shove seems good to me there too vs an aggro 3bettor like pokerjamers.
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05-10-2010 , 05:45 AM
I happen to like your line and decision to get it in Pre based on readz, If I'm gonna play this hand, if your decision was to 4bet shove this hand, why not just open shove?

Just curious
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05-10-2010 , 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ssnyc
doesn't that mean his 3 bet is not exclusively for value and that I should have a ton of FE vs his 3 betting range...
I wouldn't assume this to be true when he's OOP. got to end... Old thread... nevermind.
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05-10-2010 , 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by HUHandEH
I happen to like your line and decision to get it in Pre based on readz, If I'm gonna play this hand, if your decision was to 4bet shove this hand, why not just open shove?

Just curious
plan was to 4bet shove jamers not anyone
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05-10-2010 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by HUHandEH
I happen to like your line and decision to get it in Pre based on readz, If I'm gonna play this hand, if your decision was to 4bet shove this hand, why not just open shove?

Just curious
im so happy right now
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05-10-2010 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by HUHandEH
I happen to like your line and decision to get it in Pre based on readz, If I'm gonna play this hand, if your decision was to 4bet shove this hand, why not just open shove?

Just curious
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Originally Posted by Joey2714
plan was to 4bet shove jamers not anyone
also, ^ that's not the right answer.

Hero (MP2): t160247 M = 13.93

HTH
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05-10-2010 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jchauvin
its cute how any thread mentioning pokerjamers he responds to and like zero others lol
???
WHAT DOES THIS EVEN MEAN?
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05-10-2010 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by CIGARO
???
WHAT DOES THIS EVEN MEAN?
level?

it means:
pokerjamers aka overthaline almost only posts in threads about him.
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05-22-2011 , 09:34 PM
bored so I am bumping this for no real reason
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05-24-2011 , 07:41 AM
LOL.....how far I have come.

I did one of these yesterday for a alot of chips ffs.
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05-24-2011 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ssnyc
Mick (9:52:03 AM): i mean my 3betting range here in his spot is atc
Mick (9:52:51 AM): we allow ourselves to play perfectly b/c 1. we put you in a really awkward spot where you cant call and 2. we dont ever have to worry about playing post flop. hero has to either shove or fold


If there is anything to be gleaned from this thread, its this.
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