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11-01-2009 , 05:30 PM

Soggenbart

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Poker Stars $4.00+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t300/t600 Blinds + t50 - 7 players
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UTG+1: t20950 M = 16.76
MP: t17608 M = 14.09
CO: t4980 M = 3.98
BTN: t11932 M = 9.55
SB: t14390 M = 11.51
BB: t32520 M = 26.02
Hero (UTG): t16599 M = 13.28

Pre Flop: (t1250) Hero is UTG with 9

Hero raises to t1499, UTG+1 raises to t4200, 5 folds, Hero raises to t16549 all in, UTG+1 calls t12349

Flop: (t34348) 7

(2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: (t34348) 4

(2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t34348) J

(2 players - 1 is all in)

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11-01-2009 , 05:41 PM

Dr_Wonderful

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Strange spot but I like the 4 bet shove. Folding at this point in the tourny with 99 seems a bit weak, and calling puts you in a terrible spot post flop. Obviously you're putting yourself into a pretty scary spot with 99, but I don't think there is a whole lot else you can do with this hand at this point.

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11-01-2009 , 05:55 PM

Recteur

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i fold every f k n time

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11-01-2009 , 05:59 PM

tom_dwonk

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yeah fold lol

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11-01-2009 , 06:00 PM

tercet

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fold

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11-01-2009 , 06:38 PM

Soggenbart

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so TT+ AK to shove ???

dont u think he 3bets more then 88+ AQ+ ???

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11-02-2009 , 05:15 AM

furo

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i think his range for 3betting here is tighter, like 99+ AQs AKo
i get it in with JJ+AK

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11-02-2009 , 05:50 AM

BlackLotus69

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why you shoved again?

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11-02-2009 , 08:50 AM

Soggenbart

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Originally Posted by furo

i think his range for 3betting here is tighter, like 99+ AQs AKo
i get it in with JJ+AK

really that tight ???

I like ur 3betting range cause it would be mine vs tight or lets say 88+ AQ+ vs an unknown Villian (plz correct me if my ranges suck) but I feel like most unknowns 3bet a bit lighter so TT+ AK+ should work but idk tbh...

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11-02-2009 , 08:52 AM

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Soggenbart

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Originally Posted by BlackLotus69

why you shoved again?

plz give some advices, should help me more then writing "why u shoved" in every thread I open^^

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11-02-2009 , 09:30 AM

#11

furo

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Originally Posted by Soggenbart

depends on your image but i rarely see them 3betting with AJs/KQs vs UTG... with so many yet to act. sometimes 66-99 tho

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11-02-2009 , 09:35 AM

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bridgey321

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Fold. If we're something like CO vs BTN probably get it in. But this seems pretty strong to me.

I like TT+, AQ, AK for his range but wouldn't be suprised if it's even tighter than this.

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11-02-2009 , 09:40 AM

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AriverkillsA

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I would be putting his range on JJ+AK with him 3 betting your open raise UTG.

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11-02-2009 , 09:41 AM

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mullen

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I don't think randoms 3 bet wider at all. He might not even 3bet TT here, and he's rarely if ever folding to a shove. This is a clear fold.

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11-02-2009 , 09:45 AM

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camelia2222

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You raise UTG so you must have a hand so villain probably shove with a strong range here. I put him on TT+ AQ+ (maybe AJs) but depends on villain.

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11-02-2009 , 09:52 AM

#16

furo

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Originally Posted by mullen

I don't think randoms 3 bet wider at all. He might not even 3bet TT here, and he's rarely if ever folding to a shove. This is a clear fold.

so you fold JJ/AK and *sigh* call QQ vs a range of JJ+AKo?

i stoped giving them too much credit and get it in with JJ/AK here (asuming its readless or villain is competent)

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11-02-2009 , 10:14 AM

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mullen

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Oh I'm calling JJ+, AK always. But given stacks and positions, I'm not fistpumping JJ or anything.

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11-02-2009 , 10:32 AM

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Knut_Hamsun

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the open is fine. if no read on utg 1 i would give him 1010+ , ak. if i have a read he is tight i can fold jj here. if i have a read he is capable of doing this as a bluff, i can instashove 77+. i rarely 4bet with trash, maybe thats a leak.

the most important is to not use the 4bet bluff against ppl without a very good read. also, understand that the 99 in this spot is a bluff. you re trying to rep kk/aa, trying to make him fold 1010, ak etc.

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11-02-2009 , 07:21 PM

#19

Soggenbart

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idk if I am able to fold TT here, sick spot imo...

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