no reads

more on flop? C/R better? if so why?

turn move and plan

Poker Stars $20+$5+$2 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t25/t50 Blinds - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

zedveron (BTN): t1255 25.10 BBs
rportaleoni (SB): t2892 57.84 BBs
Hero (BB): t2955 59.10 BBs
Ninj82 (UTG): t3047 60.94 BBs
panagiotis96 (UTG+1): t2835 56.70 BBs
wsop200227 (UTG+2): t3910 78.20 BBs
miskyfelix (MP1): t5021 100.42 BBs
bm59 (MP2): t2633 52.66 BBs
ad0991 (CO): t3000 60 BBs

Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is BB with 5 J
2 folds, wsop200227 calls t50, 1 fold, bm59 calls t50, ad0991 calls t50, 1 fold, rportaleoni calls t25, Hero checks

Flop: (t250) 5 6 J (5 players)
rportaleoni checks, Hero bets t150, wsop200227 folds, bm59 calls t150, ad0991 folds, rportaleoni calls t150

Turn: (t700) 4 (3 players)
rportaleoni bets t525, Hero

Sizing otf good as we can take this for 3 streets of value vs random and i dont want to give them a good excuse to fold ott against to big of a 2 barrel. Dont c/r, will turn our hand face up and fold out everything worse. c/r here is just bad vs 4 randoms with little or no info.

Personally I dont think there are many sets/2pair otf in villain range seeing the whle table calls otf and he closes. Making a mix of most 2pairs turning up ott, bottom/top str8s, As6s,As5s etc we're left with some 50% still so another call is in place. Now many are still pretty passive weighing him towards the better side of that stove but still a decent amount of equity. Another problem are the 2 stacks behind though with the most obvious draw hit so we're probably not off in too good of a shpae but folding seems way tight. Call and see?

cause it's 5way otf i think making it a bit bigger is okey. like 175-200, not a big deal obv.

given the action pre i think it's going to be checked around too often to go for a cr + we looks way stronger if we do so. which will get a lot of hands we like to be in the pot to fold.

the turn spot is kinda hard, but i don't think we can do anything else than just call and fold if he bets river big too. folding is pretty weak as he will have a lot of 2pair, pair + draw type of hands, but still can't figure why he would donk those 3ways.

at least i think call>fold>>>jam


the bm59 guy behind us makes me lean a bit more on fold though, but still think call and soulread otr is the best we can do of this situation

lead flop is good.

call and see a river

checking the flop imo

real easy bet on flop...call now/eval rivers..(mostly calling)

shove turn

everything else good

he calls with alot worse and we are only concerned about 78/66 too many action killers otr or him getting there or not (both are worse than getting it in ott when he has a combo)

serious bro? seems closer to a fold than a shove

??? I can think of a ton of hands we beat that he does this crap with and still call and even if he folds those we still profit since we steal his equity in the pot which can be quite significant. it's a limped pot and you bet small otf

I would check the flop.

Like, y'know how if there were two diamonds out there, a lead would polarise our range between being a set protecting or a flush drawing,

this flop lead will kinda never be a minster and kinda screams like weak Jack or 2pair, idk. But I think villians will tend to take a pot control line here, esp in postion

i said call turn before, but now i think it's a clear fold

Poker Stars $20+$5+$2 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t25/t50 Blinds - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

zedveron (BTN): t1255 25.10 BBs
rportaleoni (SB): t2892 57.84 BBs
Hero (BB): t2955 59.10 BBs
Ninj82 (UTG): t3047 60.94 BBs
panagiotis96 (UTG+1): t2835 56.70 BBs
wsop200227 (UTG+2): t3910 78.20 BBs
miskyfelix (MP1): t5021 100.42 BBs
bm59 (MP2): t2633 52.66 BBs
ad0991 (CO): t3000 60 BBs

Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is BB with 5 J
2 folds, wsop200227 calls t50, 1 fold, bm59 calls t50, ad0991 calls t50, 1 fold, rportaleoni calls t25, Hero checks

Flop: (t250) 5 6 J (5 players)
rportaleoni checks, Hero bets t150, wsop200227 folds, bm59 calls t150, ad0991 folds, rportaleoni calls t150

Turn: (t700) 4 (3 players)
rportaleoni bets t525, Hero calls t525, bm59 folds

River: (t1750) A (2 players)
rportaleoni bets t950, Hero sighs

and this is why I shove turn. good luck figuring out the correct move otr

id call river, worse two pairs combos+ people clickin hella buttons

lol this is a terrible reason to jam turn.

readless calling the turn is far and away best and the river being a tough spot doesn't change taht.

yes it does. If you're gonna lose EV otr because of it then of course it makes calling ott less profitable.

please use your brain before passing extreme judgments and making wrong statements and feeling pretty awesome about them

jam turn >>>>> any other play, u have to raise the turn...calling is bad...the reason is because it's the SB, so he had almost rndom cards coming in can have a lot of worse two pair, and u don't want callers behind if they shove u have to call anyway so u need to iso

then u can't fold to many cards otr since ur priced in so fold it or raise it

how does river being a tough decision=losing EV?

we're readless, so all the assumptions you'd need to make about his range/tendencies on the turn to make jamming>calling you can't really make.

totally 1000% disagree with shoving turn...what hand do you put him on when he leads the turn? He is never bluffing so what worse value combos does he have and why do we want to shove when we are ahead here and give him a chance to muck worse

67s,45s,89,A6ss,A7ss,A8ss,KJ,QKss,ATss,66,77,55,AJ

i think calling turn is best, that being said i think there is some merit to shoving. mostly the fact that when he is nutted he usually c/r for value rather than leading. leading usually means a hand like 67 57 47 or pair+fd type hands.

yes

you guys are really not leading the top of your range in villan's spot??

nope doing so would be a mistake

don't think so...if I bladed turn I lead almost always for value

the hands that are going to call your bet are probably going to bet themselves, this is even more true for the hands willing to stack off.