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08-08-2008 , 08:21 PM

ssnyc

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any other way to play this? bet flop? call turn? or standard? No reads but he is a scandi

Poker Stars $25.00+$2.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 8 players
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MP2: t3920
CO: t3255
BTN: t3485
SB: t5400
BB: t7770
UTG: t3870
Hero (UTG+1): t3380
MP1: t2290

Pre Flop: Hero is UTG+1 with T

1 fold, Hero raises to t90, 1 fold, MP2 calls t90, 3 folds, BB calls t60

Flop: (t285) 5

(3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP2 bets t110, BB folds, Hero calls t110

Turn: (t505) J

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t290, Hero folds

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08-08-2008 , 08:24 PM

p3rc4

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Pretty standard. You can't fold the flop, and turn kills your hand, so WP IMO.

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08-08-2008 , 08:49 PM

Sherman

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Looks fine to me. I might just bet/fold this flop too. The problem with betting the flop is that you have to check almost every turn and if faced with a bet you are screwed. So check/call on the flop is probably a bit better.

Being OOP is just ****ty. It's gotta be the most well known factor that people no nothing about.

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08-08-2008 , 09:05 PM

montanad12

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I play it the same way, becasue one of these ******s is certainly gonna decide to take one off if we c-bet the flop. Then what do we do? Basically I continue to call down if good card falls on turn, but of course that's not the case. FWIW highy unlikely that this dousche is gonna bet 3 k's right out on flop.

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08-08-2008 , 09:08 PM

valenzuela

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Im with montanad I guess.

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08-08-2008 , 09:56 PM

areaman

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i think if youre planning on calling you should lead.....
i mean granted youre checking to see if all hell breaks loose behind you i guess against multiple villians but id rather c/f than c/c here. too many villians and youre oop and youre going to have serious problems continuing with this hand.

edit: i just read shermans post. hes good.

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08-08-2008 , 10:02 PM

supergood1

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Originally Posted by areaman

i think if youre planning on calling you should lead.....

This is bad. Folds out most of the worse hands and better hands will call. I like the c/c line and fold the turn.

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08-08-2008 , 10:05 PM

areaman

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Originally Posted by supergood1

This is bad. Folds out most of the worse hands and better hands will call. I like the c/c line and fold the turn.

you think the villian is going to check behind 2 streets and we are getting to showdown? i dont have any problem "turning my hand into a bluff" if its going to win me pots.

also, if better hands call, great. at least im not calling my chips off bad. id rather make mistakes on the side of agression.

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08-08-2008 , 10:22 PM

Spaztastic

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Are scandis always betting a K when it's checked to them on the flop? I think with these stacks as played is the best way to go, but what do we put Villain on betting this flop? Would trips bet so small (1/3 the pot?) when checked to here?

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08-09-2008 , 04:41 AM

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Tilter

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I cbet this flop oop, but I may check it back in position, but still likely cbet it. Giving a free-card on this board isn't great since our hand isn't so strong and it makes the hand much easier to play when deep.

Turn, you're only beating a complete bluff. So I'll fold because I have no read and don't want to have to call off 300+500 to see if im good here.

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08-09-2008 , 07:05 AM

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zedveron

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This hand goes off the rails when you decide to check the flop. Bet flop, it's fine if we fold out hands that we beat because they can easily catch up. If we get called then we can re-eval turn. Checking flop just gives up our momentum, and our hand is not strong enough to c/c.

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