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Stars .22 1 RB...flop 2 pair in BB...line check..esp river Stars .22 1 RB...flop 2 pair in BB...line check..esp river

07-21-2008 , 12:08 PM
Stars $22.22 1 RB and play is just crazy...feels nuttier than a true rebuy...

line okay here? Do we like the river check to catch a bluff?

Poker Stars $20.22+$2.00 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t25/t50 Blinds - 9 players
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MP1: t3755
MP2: t4920
CO: t2510
BTN: t2425
SB: t1245
Hero (BB): t3620
UTG: t6480
UTG+1: t1655
UTG+2: t5135

Pre Flop: Hero is BB with 3 8
2 folds, UTG+2 calls t50, MP1 calls t50, 2 folds, BTN calls t50, 1 fold, Hero checks

Flop: (t225) 4 8 3 (4 players)
Hero bets t150, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, BTN calls t150

Turn: (t525) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets t350, BTN calls t350

River: (t1225) A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets t1250, Hero calls t1250
Stars .22 1 RB...flop 2 pair in BB...line check..esp river Quote
07-21-2008 , 12:15 PM
Raise preflop.
LOL
I'm with ya on all streets. Bet sizing is g00t.
River is the interesting one, obv. I like check/call vs betting out - whiffed draws are not calling, Aces up are very possible and would raise ur a$$, river is a nice bluff inducing scare card. Plus, you don't go broke if he does make aces up.
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07-21-2008 , 12:18 PM
I think you played it pretty well as I don't see a whole lot of value in leading at the river..a random 5 has made it there, along with 56 and aces up, and you aren't going to get a busted flush draw to call you, so really your hand is a bluff catcher.
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07-21-2008 , 12:18 PM
I c/r flop. As played, looks fine.
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07-21-2008 , 12:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pped5700
I c/r flop. As played, looks fine.
only issue there is I fold out air...maybe with A 8 or something I c/r but here I want multi streets of value
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07-21-2008 , 12:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pped5700
I c/r flop. As played, looks fine.
And who would be betting this hand for you on a ragged board?
Besides the risk of getting checked through, your C/R will usually blow everyone away. Value-bet flop here all day.
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07-21-2008 , 12:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RemyXO
And who would be betting this hand for you on a ragged board?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ssnyc
Stars $22.22 1 RB and play is just crazy...feels nuttier than a true rebuy...
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07-21-2008 , 12:27 PM
lol...had nice stack and ran KK into AA last hand before end of rebuy...so much fun...
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07-21-2008 , 12:28 PM
lol donkaments.
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07-21-2008 , 12:31 PM
VNH ssync, I think you played it perfectly.

Flop is really dangerous to check on considering the limping ranges of the villains. I also prefer a c/c on river to both keep the pot small in case you're beat and to induce a bluff with missed draws.
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07-21-2008 , 12:44 PM
Yeah, if you hate money - go ahead and check/raise.
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07-21-2008 , 12:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RemyXO
Yeah, if you hate money - go ahead and check/raise.
lol..ok, I do suck, and i hate money..but more often here, the hands you are going to get the most money from are going to bet this flop when checked to, unless they improve ahead.
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07-21-2008 , 12:56 PM
[x] Pot is unraised preflop
[x] Hero is OOP and has the best hand
[x] The flop is extremely unlikey to help anyone
[x] Flop is two-suited
[x] We are four-handed
[ ] Someone is definitely betting the flop

All of the above makes it an easy and automatic value-bet for about 3/4 of the pot. Valuetown 101.
Do you realize that EVEN IF someone bets this flop, you are blowing them away with a check-raise?? Hands like Ax that made a pair and draws will have a VERY hard time calling the C/R. It's a very powerful move.
OK, BTN bets 100, we C/R and make a 100. Happy?
Or, I am on the button with QdJd and I take a free card. Happy?

Now, value-bet out of the blinds here may mean a lot of things to the villains - guy is bluffing at ragged board, betting out with a str8/flush draw, betting a baby pair, anything! Guys will be happy to call with draws, overs, and you may very likely get raised with Ax or a good flush draw. Value-betting gets more money into the pot here while protecting the hand and letting the villains make mistakes.

C/R basically says - I have a HAND, y'all get the heck out. Don't go with unnecessary tricky plays when a straightforward value bet would accomplish way more.
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07-21-2008 , 01:09 PM
^^dude..people bet; people love to bet. people love to get it in bad. this is a rebuy, where OP already said how crazy the action is. we are in a 4-way pot, with the chance to trap more money. Im not saying leading is bad, and thanks for explaining to me what valuetown is, but i think c/r shows a greater expectation.
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07-21-2008 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by pped5700
^^dude..people bet; people love to bet. people love to get it in bad. this is a rebuy, where OP already said how crazy the action is. we are in a 4-way pot, with the chance to trap more money. Im not saying leading is bad, and thanks for explaining to me what valuetown is, but i think c/r shows a greater expectation.
I guess what will give me most multistreet value...I think leading looks a lot like a draw
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07-21-2008 , 01:12 PM
I play the hand the same as OP on all streets.
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