Feels like a trivial fold but wanted to make sure and thoughts on my sizing and line. Villain is 52/9 over 23 4-9h filtered hands (had 6m hud filter on). Neither of the other two shorties are regs afaik but neither seems too fishy.

I would just jam pf. Don't really want to get action from BB.

pre is obv fine.
flop sizing has benefits from both this small and 58-60ish. I'd prolly go for 58 and hope he floats less but doesn't matter that much i'd guess as you can now call a lot of small turn bets and hope he checks rivers behind or you bink.
turn fold is good imo.

On the turn, I'm having problems finding a range we are 50% versus, and I think we need about 66% to get it in.

I do this with TT and prob JJ but i felt like qq was to strong to openjam. I could be off though.

You openjamming KK too?

+1 and std till then

Dang boy you really are a nit.

Flop is weird and I'm clueless really on what to do, I think I might check and see what happens. I don't expect him to ever really fold to such a small bet, but it's unlikely that he pots the turn with a hand bad enough for you to get it in with.

Don't shove pf! lol

Microbet and check flop both cool, depends on stuff

Pot bet=foldsies

Yeah sippin bet was as much to keep him from betting as it was for value. This way we can control the sizing and might keep him from betting worse hands on future streets. C/f this flop after raising pre seems super gross and if he bets more than ~50 otf I think we have to.

Anyone like b/f really small on turn? Again to take action away from him as i think hes less likely to jam over bet light than he is to take initiative when checked to. Just really gross cause i feel like any more chips we invest put us decently behind the two other shorties rather than relatively close and hurts our future FE a decent bit.

idk about the turn, cant be bad both ways, dont think im folding

b/f is probably infinite times worse though.

check flop can be sexy but i like how u played it and now put all ur chips in the middle

Foldsies itt

Word I was just caught up in the idea of him floating then bluffing, didn't mean to say you should put the hammer down so he folds even though it came out that way. If he does have a piece on the flop that turn card sucks. His play isn't in line with having a king, I'm struggling to make any sense of it really.

just bet flop bigger and jam turn problem solved, as played dont worry he aint got a king in the two cards that are in his possession

Not that you always have time to look back in a hyper if you missed the action, but any read from how villain got that stack?

probably won a few hands

Jup agreed with this. Feel like if you don't shove this (don't think shove is a good idea, but it's obv not bad) you should just play it aggressively with a hand like this, even if an overcard flops.

given stack setup and reads it is very unlikely that hero wants to fold this unless flop comes really sick.
the reason is because after folding this hand u'll have close to zero FE vs that villan on BB and will prob face cooperation when shoving. for this reason id make it 3x pre, and prob flop jamming vs these kind villans that will call pretty loose. hope it makes sense

Yeah, I like just betting the flop bigger and getting the turn in.

So yeah bubble factor isnt as gross on the turn as i though. If we treat villains bet as an allin, we need ~59% eq using straight ICM. But i dont think were crushing villains range as much as some of you guys think. Small sample but i think a 52/9 over a couple dozen hands is more than capable of floating flop bets with top pair. And obv can be spazzing with a high or worse on turn but players like that tend to like the middle button.

I still like c/f on turn but way closer than id originally thought.

What do you guys think about completing pre and then getting it on over preflop raises and then getting it in on safe flops? Still lets us extract more value than an openshove but doesnt bloat pot pre OOP in a gross spot like this.

could also go 180-220 pre and jam any flop

Id fold turn.

Villain is beasting the tourney, I don't trust him. Really though, I don't think it's played to badly, I can see him being a bit wide though because of his stack. Like u said, pry is close, I am a huge nit though and would fold. Check flop though, he is leading like 90% of his range at this point, so a check/jam on flop has some credibility IMO.

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Firstly, open jamming pre is ridiculous. The only people suggesting that are the ones who have zero clue how to play QQ on an Ace or King high flop, and they should really look to work on that rather than just shoving all in to avoid dealing with it. I like the idea of making it bigger pre, maybe 3x instead of a standard min raise. I mean if he wants to see a flop he's calling regardless. When he does calls from the BB you are just crushing his range and by open shoving you deny him the opportunity to call a super marginal hand and get in a mess post flop.

As for post flop, you have to be betting. His stats suggest he is fairly loose passive and QQ on that flop is crushing his range so bad. If he raises the flop bet I think he just has your balls in a vice grip and you have to fold. Seems a better alternative to check/guessing what he has if he bets. Also he can call with a **** tonne of worse hands on the flop. Any pair or draw is calling, I have even seen fish call with Ace and Queen high on these boards. Once he calls your flop bet I think he almost never has a King. His most likely hand is some sort of pair, draw or pair plus draw, and you are ahead on the flop a huge percentage of the time. The turn isn't the greatest card in the world. Some of the time he is going to have made some weird straight or 2 pair type hand, but I still think you are ahead enough of the time to just ship it in. He is going to fold a lot and I feel you are ahead a lot when called. If he shows up with the winner here I would feel pretty happy I made the right play given all the speculative crap in his range.

I'd bet the flop and get it in now, he's probably piling any pair and his range is still super wide here on turn, it's not like to give him a range you have to have it weighted towards 89 and KT , he'll show up with a bunch of J6o to make it good imo