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Poker Stars $11+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 8 players
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6ooO6Ooo6 (BB): t1810 M = 60.33
loppers22 (UTG): t1260 M = 42
wwnnxxtt (UTG+1): t1410 M = 47
DOMRIN (MP1): t1710 M = 57
GeeMan91 (MP2): t1450 M = 48.33
madge02 (CO): t1470 M = 49
corallus (BTN): t2660 M = 88.67
Hero (SB): t1730 M = 57.67

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is SB with 8 8
2 folds, DOMRIN raises to t80, GeeMan91 calls t80, 2 folds, Hero calls t70, 6ooO6Ooo6 calls t60

Flop: (t320) 3 5 2 (4 players)
Hero checks, 6ooO6Ooo6 checks, DOMRIN bets t100, GeeMan91 calls t100, Hero raises to t360, 6ooO6Ooo6 calls t360, DOMRIN calls t260, GeeMan91 calls t260

Turn: (t1760) 2 (4 players)
Hero bets t1290 all in,

I dislike the flop raise size.

I sympathize with the concern that their ranges are incredibly random here. Nonetheless raising to this size accomplishes nothing much other than creating a really large pot OOP with relatively little money behind. Almost every turn card has the potential to be really bad with two villains with wide range in the hand. If you want to stay in the hand you need to raise much more.

Seems good. I don't play $12 games, but I imagine most players would consciously know you wouldn't play trips like this.

However, It's tough because this early on bluffs are never in your range. So this has to look like some overplayed value bet. Sometimes I do this when I think my opponents will only call out of disbelief as opposed to when I tank/fire thin value bets on boards such as this, where we easily represent a big piece.

If they call, they probably expect you to have 45, 66+, A4, or 56(hh). Given that, seems like you're only getting called by bigger PP's or straights, so you should be tank 1/2potting? This looks more like a bluff, thus getting called by worse hands.


Anyhow, these are just my thoughts, and they're probably terrible.

They are pretty far from terrible but dont worry even if they are I have posted all variety of garbage with little judgement.

I like your line sssync. Id be thinking that a set or pocket that had me beat would jam the flop. The turn is a safe cards regarding draws. Cooler is someone somehow had a 2 or flopped the nutz.

this is fine if you thought you had the best hand in the turbos you can have the best hand a lot on this flop

You're doomed. But in these spots I default to shove as well. Maybe I should be defaulting to checking/fold.

you thought you were good and committed a lot on the flop so the turn shove is standard imo. the 2nd 2 is obv a blank and isn't improving anyone. To me 88 is a little south of where I'd like to be but as your title says, trying to figure out euros raise/call/shove/fold/checking ranges is almost a waste of time. obv you're either really good or really bad, but probably really good imo. who 4xes pre-flop these days anyway? Apparently the euros like our boy action dan.

...overpair against two random euros (no offense europe) you're probably good. These 12s become so much easier when you chip up early.

Meh im not a fan of this, but who knows it might be correct. Assuming this was played in the morning (uk time) these play like 2.20 180s for the most part

this has turned into a euro bash lol

The flop sets up a really nice shove on the turn and I think that given the board texture we hear from every better hand before we get to open jam the turn.

Like unless we are up against exactly A4cc then we are good here

good point. I can't see how 99+ or some crap set/straight doesn't jam our raise OTF.

Jamming the turn with the logic of "lol 180s" seems fine to me.

I mean theres at least a 5% chance he called your flop raise with K-10o anyways

very well articulated sir

I think this is pretty thin and I think its possible for Dormin especially to have an overpair and its a bad idea to try to make him fold.

However turn was like one of 5 good cards for our hand so shove I guess but not raise the flop in the first place.

are you raise/folding flop?

as played i think its fine they should not have a 2 (unless they made quads) and 33/55 prolly reraises flop. they show up with 99/TT here tho some % of the time. but whatever, most of the time the 88 is good here.