not worried about laggy villain who squeezes, more concerned w/ initial raiser who is a very good and aggro mtt reg.

Not folding. I'm surprised you're not 3-bet calling vs OR with your reads.

i like the flat if your image is tight. u wont get it in very good here if u havent been 3betting. as played im happy to get it it. this is a good squeeze spot for the sb and the openraiser is prob going broke with AJ 77+ here or even wider and u can discount many QQ+ hands since hes overshoving and not 4betting. so for me its TT+ AK+ prob AQs 9s

a very good/aggro mtt reg will not jam a range that we do too poorly against here
i dont agree on the initial flat with these positions and stacksizes

easy gii; whether or not the initial flat is good depends on your image and reads on players behind.

contradicting statements.
How is it a good spot to squeeze for SB if he's oop and hero has a tight image whilst OR is lag?

Hero's tight image also meant OR would be less tempted to jam such wide range as 77/AJ.

As played its a fold I guess and it depends whether 3b/c pre vs OR is good.

If we played LAG => 3b/c pre. As played, close decision. I'd shove here JJ, folding TT

I have tight/solid image

no its not. most tight guys 3b/c their premium range there without a second thought and if the or is laggy he has a hard time playing his weaker hands on and if he 4bets he may get 5betjammed.

why do all of u guys advocate 3bet/calling btw?! if the openraiser, as said, is a good aggro reg he will get in JJ+ AK vs a tight guy. flatting is way better

3bet induces more than flatting imo and keeps additional weaker hands in range if he has been solid and tight. flatting also puts us in horrible spot on some Ax boards and Kx boards when he barrels his 77+

giving up on this

completely agree, also can't disregard that we are 42bb effective.

because we did not know that OR is a nit?

Seems to me this is exactly why we flatted pre in the first place. You have concealed the strength of your hand which allowed the opportunity for someone behind to squeeze. Given that the initial raiser may have a hard time knowing the strength of your hand here and due to his bet sizing im definately going with it.

As played gii. Also i dont mind the flat pre in these positions. 3b gii pre v OR in this spot does not feel good 42bb eff.

Given your reads this feels like a very good hand, i fold but its close with JJ

me personally i would fold too often I am beat. I'm feeling a 90% certanity that at least 1 of them has AQ+ or JJ+. So... at least you are flipping at worse you are 20% I do not like it

btw I never like calling a situation where I think I'm at best 50% ever lol

Like the call and then I'm finding a tight fold here as the MP2 has a lot to contend with... There is already a decent pot worth taking down for him, whilst any 3bet would be nearly half stack anyway, also 2 opponents to think about which would seriously reduce odds of winning if called in two places even with premium... If you had 3bet and sb folded and mp2 had shoved I would be more inclined to call as it looks Ax dominated range
Also the purpose of calling pre flop is to protect chip stack in position with a decent hand... If we are going to call an all in anyway we should have just shoved ourselves in the first place to leverage fold equity... If we are happy to get all in with JJ against the MP2 then we should have taken the initiative... We weren't because of your reads and so I don't think we should now after showing even more strength

So much this.

I'm prepared to go with it now. We aren't backraising much in this spot so we should be prepared to get it in a little lighter than we normally would.