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10-16-2009 , 09:15 AM

ssnyc

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I know this is ABC but I wanted to hear people's thoughts on UTG's range for shoving here.

Does he always have the nuts?

Poker Stars $100+$9 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 8 players
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Warzycha (UTG): t2880 M = 96
Hero (UTG+1): t3000 M = 100
Dominik450 (MP1): t3070 M = 102.33
parisrn366 (MP2): t2940 M = 98
Forell1 (CO): t5330 M = 177.67
AlexGr3 (BTN): t3110 M = 103.67
raggaz (SB): t3400 M = 113.33
maxxmeister (BB): t280 M = 9.33

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is UTG+1 with Q

Warzycha raises to t60, Hero calls t60, 5 folds, maxxmeister raises to t280 all in, Warzycha raises to t2880 all in, Hero folds but pauses due to time of day and all

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10-16-2009 , 09:21 AM

furo

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why would he play AA like this vs one flatter, thats prolly QQ/AK thats happy to pick up the pot and know you will fold 99-1010/AQish hands you where setmining or whatever with.

dont mind a openfold here vs the UTG raise and so many yet to act.

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10-16-2009 , 09:23 AM

Angribob

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I think you can put AA in his range if he's decent.

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10-16-2009 , 09:23 AM

Wizard0fboz

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JJ+, AK.

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10-16-2009 , 09:32 AM

mement_mori

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99+,AQo+ is my first instinct. Maybe wider though

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10-16-2009 , 09:32 AM

Jeebs83

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There are only two hands worth shoving with UTG in the early stage of a tournament: AA and KK. You may see the occasional QQ in the shove range UTG this early, but not often. Shoving AK here would be ludicrous as well. I think your fold is correct, as this is a long tournament, and vs UTG in that situation that early, you're dead in the water if you're against AA or AK. The one positive is that you would be a slight underdog vs. KK and QQ, since you have an Ace and 3 possible outs to draw out on. Long run, the fold is positive EV.

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10-16-2009 , 09:55 AM

au_maverick

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Originally Posted by Wizard0fboz

JJ+, AK.

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10-16-2009 , 09:56 AM

slayerv1fan

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good fold.

It should be JJ+ imo

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10-16-2009 , 10:13 AM

Iplaythabored

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god, whatsw with all the nits itt, i think he could iso pretty wide here prob his entire open range

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10-16-2009 , 10:16 AM

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Vekked

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Easy fold to the raise initially unless you have some sort of read. Not sure of his shoving range but we def can't call it, way too marginal.

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10-16-2009 , 10:17 AM

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Vekked

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Originally Posted by Iplaythabored

god, whatsw with all the nits itt, i think he could iso pretty wide here prob his entire open range

Decent chance AQ is behind his UTG opening range to begin with...

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