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Stars 9 20K...and the pre spots get simpler and dumber but... Stars 9 20K...and the pre spots get simpler and dumber but...

04-12-2011 , 09:12 AM
1st hand of MTT...no notes or read on villan who is on button.

first glance (and maybe second too) it seems a simple flat to his min 3 bet...

but OOP is this really just a donation? we have no reads to play the pot if we miss and are never really sure where we are at when we hit...

is this one of those stupid spots where we flat solely because every other option sucks?

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $100 Buy-in (10/20 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #8959772

BTN: 3,000 (150 bb)
SB: 3,000 (150 bb)
BB: 3,000 (150 bb)
UTG+1: 3,000 (150 bb)
UTG+2: 3,000 (150 bb)
MP1: 3,000 (150 bb)
Hero (MP2): 3,000 (150 bb)
MP3: 3,000 (150 bb)
CO: 3,000 (150 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K Q
3 folds, Hero raises to 60, 2 folds, BTN raises to 120, 2 folds, Hero
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04-12-2011 , 09:18 AM
Must resist...just flat my ninja.
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04-12-2011 , 09:23 AM
I always chose 4b.
How come?
Cause **** him that's why.
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04-12-2011 , 09:30 AM
opr him, not folding quite yet
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04-12-2011 , 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ssnyc

is this one of those stupid spots where we flat solely because every other option sucks?
Yes however would openfold pre.
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04-12-2011 , 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by cicakman
I always chose 4b.
How come?
Cause **** him that's why.
lol...don't think 4 betting did not seriously cross my mind...readless and this early I figured it would be spewy but calling seemed more like throwing chips away than anything else
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04-12-2011 , 09:46 AM
Just make him fear you instead of the other way. Or pretend its me when someone raises you. That way you'll always be comfortable reraising.
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04-12-2011 , 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by cicakman
Just make him fear you instead of the other way. Or pretend its me when someone raises you. That way you'll always be comfortable reraising.
that is far from the issue...the issue is that we are OOP and I think he folds to a reasonable 4 bet almost never...so now we are OOP in an inflated pot pre ante, readless with Q $%^ing K
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04-12-2011 , 09:50 AM
lol @ 4betting, isux would have a heart attack
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04-12-2011 , 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by phos77
lol @ 4betting, isux would have a heart attack
stop giving me reasons to 4 bet!!!
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04-12-2011 , 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by BurnzDK
Yes however would openfold pre.
thats pretty tight mate.

I think its a fold to that 3b but I never do it.
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04-12-2011 , 10:03 AM
WWVD?
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04-12-2011 , 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by cicakman
WWVD?
WWNSBD?
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04-12-2011 , 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ssnyc
WWNSBD?
Who cares its not like he wins
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04-12-2011 , 10:30 AM
Fold, I'd call if suited though!
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