just got to table...first hand I witnessed was this one where villan in my hand played a pretty strong line...my hand is a few hands after this one and first hand I played

I think pre is marginal but ok...flop seems ABC (also a good example of betting slightly less with a weaker hand...we discussed in other threads tailoring our bets to set up later streets)...turn seems ABC...

river I bet for value but what I am doing to a c/r from this player...

thoughts?

Hand #1 (read hand)
Poker Stars $100+$9 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

jl0423 (MP2): t2375 79.17 BBs
meerva (CO): t2565 85.50 BBs
kosmas78 (BTN): t3540 118 BBs
mrace_23 (SB): t2660 88.67 BBs
tango0039 (BB): t3080 102.67 BBs
shevalex09 (UTG): t3300 110 BBs
Chimeras (UTG+1): t6340 211.33 BBs
Zenyatta Pup (MP1): t3110 103.67 BBs

Pre Flop: (t45)
1 fold, Chimeras raises to t88, 4 folds, mrace_23 raises to t240, 1 fold, Chimeras calls t152

Flop: (t510) 9 K 2 (2 players)
mrace_23 bets t300, Chimeras raises to t912, mrace_23 raises to t2420 all in, Chimeras folds

Final Pot: t2334
mrace_23 wins t2334


Hand #2 (actual hand)
Poker Stars $100+$9 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

jl0423 (SB): t2630 87.67 BBs
meerva (BB): t2415 80.50 BBs
kosmas78 (UTG): t3450 115 BBs
mrace_23 (UTG+1): t3752 125.07 BBs
tango0039 (MP1): t3230 107.67 BBs
Hero (MP2): t2955 98.50 BBs
Chimeras (CO): t5143 171.43 BBs
Zenyatta Pup (BTN): t3095 103.17 BBs

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is MP2 with Q T
1 fold, mrace_23 raises to t90, 1 fold, Hero calls t90, 4 folds

Flop: (t225) 3 T 3 (2 players)
mrace_23 checks, Hero bets t120, mrace_23 calls t120

Turn: (t465) J (2 players)
mrace_23 checks, Hero checks

River: (t465) 3 (2 players)
mrace_23 checks, Hero bets t270,

looks fine, prob call if you get raised but I wouldn't worry about the possibility too much... depends on timing and sizing too obv

also no idea how you figure he's "capable of moves" from the first hand. fairly sure he just had it and shoved instead of letting chimeras spew it off in all the excitement

agree with derbos

yea ssnyc, sample size wise i dont believe your first hand added much if anything tbh. Compared to ^^^^ I cant find any hand that is turned around to bluff. Derbos, you mean someone would just flip around some Ax hand or some pair? Take us for betting thinest with some 99s or trying to get us off a hand we decide to value?

the more I think about getting raised in spots like this the more I think we should fold... but that also means that we really shouldn't worry about it in the first place

That I totally agree with and actually skipped adding to my post

agree with Derbos , I dont see what the fuss is about , if you think he is capable of moves at the time, dont vb thin

FYP

Looks well played. Agree with the consensus that the previous hand shouldn't weigh too heavily upon this hand, especially where a much different line was taken...

WP

fold pre.


as played, postflop line looks good.

i woulda fired 550 or something, your line makes 0 sense for value and he has 88-99 here alot

yawn standard everywhere, I'd go 345 on the river but whatever, lol snapfold to a c/r ofc

Would bet less on river (~1/3 pot) and call a c/r.

What hand do you think villain c/c flop with and then checks turn and river that can beat us?

I agree that hand is standard, but I would think that without any dynamic or reads (or bet sizing tells for the c/r) we can't fold to a c/r here

I would say the opposite, readless / random who normally decides to pop over for a c/r. The less you know the more inclined. It doesnt suit the line but even less the c/r does without any info about hero

Could be the most defensive calliest ever station betting and this is not the board to exploit for villain

-"Oh, a c/r out of the blue, who does he think he is!?" should be in villains mind before raising and i would say most would say just leave it