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11-13-2011 , 02:42 AM

WATTSY GOT

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Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 27

hey pretty sure this is standard fold wit opponent trending to call over raise his stats are over 33hands 33/9 with a 10.5% 3b out of 19hands whats ur opinion? also AJo in general vs a bb squeeze play at these stakes are we normally folding?

Poker Stars, $25 Buy-in (150/300 blinds, 30 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11047292

UTG+2: 4,390 (14.6 bb)
MP1: 16,241 (54.1 bb)
Hero (MP2): 9,215 (30.7 bb)
MP3: 14,550 (48.5 bb)
CO: 4,205 (14 bb)
BTN: 9,931 (33.1 bb)
SB: 4,716 (15.7 bb)
BB: 6,484 (21.6 bb)
UTG+1: 15,418 (51.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J

3 folds, Hero raises to 690, 2 folds, BTN calls 690, SB folds, BB raises to 1,800, 2 folds

Results: 2,490 pot
BB mucked and won 2,490 (1,770 net)

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11-13-2011 , 03:28 AM

pkratitsbest

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Bb is never 3b folding here with 21bbs. Ez fold

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11-13-2011 , 04:26 AM

BurnzDK

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Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 582

Easy fold.
he's 3b to get it in and vs that range youre in bad shape.

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11-13-2011 , 11:54 AM

gregz41

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If BB was even 5 BB deeper, I'd jam this down his throat.

But as others have said, it's hard to imagine him 3b folding here and his 3b/c range will most likely be >>> AJ

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11-13-2011 , 12:54 PM

MartinGuthOBV

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@op: wat are u doing if bb goes all in preflop instead 3betting?

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11-13-2011 , 01:17 PM

jjpregler

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I'm perplexed why he didn't shove, but purposely left what appears to be FE with his stack. If he's a thinking player, he's only leaving fold equity when he wants to induce a shove.

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11-14-2011 , 04:10 AM

WATTSY GOT

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Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 27

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Originally Posted by MartinGuthOBV

@op: wat are u doing if bb goes all in preflop instead 3betting?

yeah not sure wat i would do i would definately be more inclined to call i guess b/c it then puts imo alot more small pairs and weaker Ax in his range

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11-14-2011 , 05:04 AM

sunnydunerz

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snapfold

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11-14-2011 , 07:12 AM

furo

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close fold. def jamming AQo.

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11-14-2011 , 03:48 PM

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Kamawoop

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 412

AJ almost always an insta-fold to a 3bet. You are never ahead enough, you have to fold.

I've been looking at situations were villain virtual shoves, but leaves a tiny bit behind. My conclusion is that, more often than not, it is a clear sign they are weak.

If i trust my gut in this case play it for stacks!

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Problem I guess is that weak could be 77; but trust me his play is indicative of not much. At least according to the half million hands i just spent half an hour analysing.

Last edited by Kamawoop; 11-14-2011 at 03:55 PM.

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11-15-2011 , 06:57 AM

#11

AvidNiT

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Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 12

I kind of agree that i fold to a reraise but call a shove, but doesnt that make us very exploitable?

I don´t agree that a thinking player only reraises with hands he wants to get in. Or, maybe a good player wont. I think that he probably shouldn´t have a reraise range here, but if he has, it should be very polarized. (Something like medium suited connectors and QQ+)

In his shoes, i would shove something like (22+,A2s+,A8+89s+) that will give AJ about 51-52% equity and an easy call.

What I´m trying to say is that wether he raise or shoves shouldnt change if we get it in. That will make us super exploitable. Right?

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11-15-2011 , 08:02 AM

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pkratitsbest

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im getting it in with 99+,AQs+,AKo+ here facing the 3-bet. AQo and 88 are close

is the BB decent and aggro? if hes decent he can be reshoving suited aces, Ato, KQ, suited boardways etc. then AJo is a call. but against many random in this stake, Ajo a fold to a 3-bet shove (would get it in a bit wider tho, sth like 88+,Ajs+,AQo+)

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