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11-30-2011 , 04:37 AM

Nyapsya

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Should I shove or fold?

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $3 Buy-in (150/300 blinds, 40 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11179032

Hero (MP1): 3,407 (11.4 bb)
MP2: 2,881 (9.6 bb)
MP3: 11,410 (38 bb)
CO: 4,201 (14 bb)
BTN: 6,328 (21.1 bb)
SB: 3,399 (11.3 bb)
BB: 4,560 (15.2 bb)
UTG+1: 16,201 (54 bb)
UTG+2: 16,710 (55.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A

UTG+1 calls 300, UTG+2 raises to 900, Hero???

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11-30-2011 , 05:24 AM

MartinGuthOBV

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foldski readless

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11-30-2011 , 05:58 AM

pkratitsbest

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fold, AJs would be close

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12-01-2011 , 04:12 AM

elwismw

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Originally Posted by MartinGuthOBV

foldski readless

+1

Without any reads on villians, fold, even with your M=4

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12-01-2011 , 01:41 PM

betgo

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UTG limper, UTG+1 raise and several players to act, and pretty much to FE. MAybe pushing TT+/AQs+.

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12-01-2011 , 02:15 PM

Rokke

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Prob ditching AQs unless villain is aggro and/or competent.

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12-01-2011 , 02:44 PM

timetowom

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Real easy fold. Don't second guess yourself cause villains had 66 and 88

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12-01-2011 , 02:53 PM

davethedave2

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99,AQ

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12-01-2011 , 07:49 PM

Gardemeister1

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Yeah this is definitely a fold, UTG is blatenly gonna give it the ol limp/rr with aces from UTG!

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12-01-2011 , 10:25 PM

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Donovan

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your smashing what KT and A9? Your either dominated or sharing outs vs a pair most of the time here. You don't have first in vigorish and even though you're short stacked there should be a huge gap between the hands you'll push if your first in to the pot and ones your going to run into a UTG limp and early pos raise. If one or the other villain was removed from the hand it would be a very different story but the presence of a UTG limper should scare you some, the fact that a guy saw the UTG limp and still raised from early position should turn your hand to hot coals.

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12-02-2011 , 01:48 PM

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rayfox111

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Instant fold, unless they are having their own private fight.
If you have any reads you need to put them in.

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12-02-2011 , 02:08 PM

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ForexTrader

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fold, you are either crushed or flipping
Stats on UTG+2 ?

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