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02-07-2010 , 05:17 PM

demetri1978

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but sngwiz says JJ+(thats with me putting the range of the shover as very tight) maybe im missing something, havnt slept for couple of days lol.
Poker Stars $55+$5 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t300/t600 Blinds + t50 - 4 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

SB: t795 M = 0.72
BB: t5885 M = 5.35
CO: t3180 M = 2.89
Hero (BTN): t3640 M = 3.31

Pre Flop: (t1100) Hero is BTN with A

CO raises to t3130 all in, Hero raises to t3590 all in, 2 folds

Flop: (t7360) 8

(2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: (t7360) 5

(2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t7360) K

(2 players - 2 are all in)

Spoiler:

02-07-2010 , 05:23 PM

jurrasstoil

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you gotta be kidding...

02-07-2010 , 05:23 PM

willperkins

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I'm not folding AA preflop.

02-07-2010 , 05:29 PM

demetri1978

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well i say it cause we have a stack that very short and about to be blinded out so if i lose im next to get hit in the bb before the ss.how the hell can jj be a call?he has aq here kq etc and then im only flipping with the ss jumping up to the money?

02-07-2010 , 05:33 PM

Glitlr

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Basically if his range is like <5%, I assume only KK+ call. Get some sleep.

02-07-2010 , 05:33 PM

jurrasstoil

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If it would be a sat with a 33/33/33 payout, you could fold AA imo.

02-07-2010 , 05:40 PM

dang44

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what a bad beat

but srsly, never folding here.

02-07-2010 , 05:44 PM

laberrababer

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SB: t795 M = 0.72

one lucky fella

02-07-2010 , 05:51 PM

demetri1978

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Glitlr

Basically if his range is like <5%, I assume only KK+ call. Get some sleep.

for sure sounds right and obv if it is a sat then AA is a fold

02-07-2010 , 05:53 PM

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ihufa

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his range is top28% or so, go get some sleep

02-07-2010 , 06:00 PM

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demetri1978

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ihufa

his range is top28% or so, go get some sleep

then ak is a call which means we are flipping and letting the ss jump into the money.so that still doesnt seem right imo

02-07-2010 , 07:09 PM

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lnternet

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pretty sure you shouldnt

youre even left with a BB

02-07-2010 , 10:57 PM

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ShipItMehr

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no way...as long as you are adequately rolled for this level. If you had like 1-3 buyins and cashing was of the utmost importance, then you could possibly consider folding but even then it is questionable. You win that and your chances of winning 200 or whatever go up huge.

02-07-2010 , 11:13 PM

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andreyit

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don't fold aces preflop

02-07-2010 , 11:15 PM

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SheepMoose

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If you had a read that villian had KK and that pokerstars were going to deal a King on the river than I'd fold.

02-07-2010 , 11:20 PM

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Loctus

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Isn't villains shovingrange absolutely irrelevant here?

02-07-2010 , 11:22 PM

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evitooo

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ldo yes

02-07-2010 , 11:23 PM

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Moneylover

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Don't listen to these morons. You kow you should fold them when your gut tells you your opponent will hit a set. Remember the old saying... follow your instincts.

02-07-2010 , 11:35 PM

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harddeterminism

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obvious fold fold fold fold fold

02-07-2010 , 11:43 PM

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CalmTheDegen

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Plz dont ever play a $55 SNG again, for your own sake.......

02-07-2010 , 11:50 PM

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andreyit

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If u are playing on pokerstars fold.

Anyother site don't fold

02-07-2010 , 11:50 PM

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demetri1978

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jj qq is a 100% fold here and if it was a big sat to say wsop or wcoop main event etc etc then AA and KK is 100% fold!otherwise yes kk aa looks to be a call here for a 9 man sng

02-08-2010 , 12:50 AM

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BrentD22

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FOLD? There are still 4 players in the field and you want to fold AA pre-flop because SB is so short. Call, get sucked out, act like a man, break your mouse.

02-08-2010 , 12:54 AM

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demetri1978

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Glitlr

Basically if his range is like <5%, I assume only KK+ call. Get some sleep.

reply to the post above this one,this dude called it right imo .as he always does,but thanx for the thoughts though. not a straight forward one when i was on 20 tables(and use to 180 mans) but now looking at it kk+ makes sense obv.