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01-20-2013 , 12:09 PM
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Hello,

First of all I am new here up till now only reading and just started to play online tournaments at PStars.ES (low buyin < euro 10).
Because I'm a newby I would appreciate some advise on how to improve my play and reach the final table.

Thanks,

    Poker Stars, $2.69 Buy-in (75/150 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15591141

    MP3: 3,035 (20.2 bb)
    CO: 1,972 (13.1 bb)
    BTN: 2,012 (13.4 bb)
    SB: 4,780 (31.9 bb)
    BB: 4,330 (28.9 bb)
    UTG+1: 2,800 (18.7 bb)
    Hero (UTG+2): 1,820 (12.1 bb)
    MP1: 5,200 (34.7 bb)
    MP2: 3,551 (23.7 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 9 K
    UTG+1 calls 150, Hero calls 150, 5 folds, SB completes, BB checks

    Flop: (600) 9 9 6 (4 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets 300, Hero calls 300, SB calls 300, BB raises to 1,200, UTG+1 raises to 2,650 and is all-in, Hero calls 1,370 and is all-in, SB folds, BB calls 1,450

    Turn: (7,870) Q (3 players, 2 are all-in)
    River: (7,870) 5 (3 players, 2 are all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: 7,870 pot
    Final Board: 9 9 6 Q 5
    SB mucked and lost (-450 net)
    BB showed 4 9 and lost (-2,800 net)
    UTG+1 showed 7 8 and won 7,870 (5,070 net)
    Hero showed 9 K and lost (-1,820 net)



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    01-20-2013 , 12:16 PM
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    Hi, welcome to the forums, maybe check out our FAQ on the front page of SSMTT


    1) don't be results oriented; you got it in as a big favourite, just accept that people will suck out

    2) as butchered pre you really have to get it in on this flop, but you should just shove over UTG's bet of 300, not flat it

    3) most importantly, don't limp to play fit or fold when you only have 12bb, and especially not in early position — you're just bleeding chips and burning money
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    01-20-2013 , 12:49 PM
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    Thanks for the tips and will certainly apply it whenever appropiate.

    I apologise for not taking note of the FAQ and misformed my title.
    It was not intended as a bad beat post but really wanted tips of how to better play this hand.
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    01-20-2013 , 06:28 PM
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    Fold pre.

    Jam flop.

    Ez game
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    01-20-2013 , 09:55 PM
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    I thinks it's better to just fold this kind of hand pre flop.
    Especially when u in early position with relative small stack.
    Well u didn't so after flop i think better to raise because lot of players in hand and someone can have a flushdraw. so u raise on flop to get value
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    01-20-2013 , 10:33 PM
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    dont limp in early position with weak holdings, defntly folding preflop.
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    01-21-2013 , 12:31 AM
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    Quote:
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    but you should just shove over UTG's bet of 300, not flat it
    Jamming over UTG raise is so spewy here.

    Or did you just mean you can't flat, you jam or fold?
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    01-21-2013 , 05:42 AM
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    Quote:
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    Jamming over UTG raise is so spewy here.

    Or did you just mean you can't flat, you jam or fold?
    A shove here against the right opponents isn't that bad and if we see that he is capable of open limping 78s here utg, I have really no problem with it.
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    01-21-2013 , 01:17 PM
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    Quote:
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    Jamming over UTG raise is so spewy here.

    Or did you just mean you can't flat, you jam or fold?
    Not sure how it's spewy, we've got three of a kind - there are only three holdings which beat our hand, and of those, only pocket 6s is anything more than absurdly unlikely

    And how on earth do you think I might mean fold when I said shove? We're so short that already we only have a pot size bet left, so let's just get it in here and now while we're ahead, and hope to fade villains' outs.
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    01-21-2013 , 01:33 PM
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    Fold pre. Flop is fine as played for a limped hand.
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    01-21-2013 , 01:50 PM
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by TeamTrousers
    Not sure how it's spewy, we've got three of a kind - there are only three holdings which beat our hand, and of those, only pocket 6s is anything more than absurdly unlikely

    And how on earth do you think I might mean fold when I said shove? We're so short that already we only have a pot size bet left, so let's just get it in here and now while we're ahead, and hope to fade villains' outs.
    Oops, I missread your post and thought you were talking about pre
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