not really fair...that second comment really applies to Chainsaw, and Chainsaw only...the complaints regarding the 25K HU is very legit...

start times of 1pm were really prohibitive for people with 9 to 5ers. start em later plz

this structure is terrible. You could actually just make it a 100 bb freezeout and it wouldn't take that much time at all. I remember thinking the structure for the previous $25k HU tourney on pokerstars was good. Don't see why this needs a faster one when it has less people. I am currently registered and there is a high chance I drop because of this.

Edit: I say this as someone that has absolutely loved every single decision and structure and even pay scale for the most part. I think this tournament series has been run incredibly well.

Bryans,

I'm registered to play tomorrow but after seeing this structure I will probably be out. Please change it as everyone else playing in this has suggested.

Bryan,

Please make the structure for both the 2500 and the 25K HU tournament include deeper starting stacks and/or slower blind increases as others have mentioned. Many players who are playing in the 25K are also playing in the 2500, so please be sure to change both of them.

I personally felt the payouts in the low events were horrible. Play the $33 for 5+ hrs make the money and you're still stuck!

Thats unfathomable imo.

To all those that want to sa it leaves more moeny in the playing pool for mroe rake etc, you are wrong! Are you stupid enuf to believe that $54 would be taken out of the poker economy but not $30?

And the 1rb 1ao events...wtf? 9600 entries and yet it was short 6000 rebuys and add ons combined. Make the satelites award W$42 for crying out loud. At least that way the $3 satellite donkeys have a chance, and it fattens the prize pool to reasonable for the money bubblers. Is that too hard to figure out?

I'm sorry for the bad attitude but having been in the poker business on/off for 30+ years it's just common sense to me.

Bryan, I think it's a pretty bad decision to have a heads-up tourney during the sunday.
It won't mean much for the 25k, but for the the low and medium tier very few of the mttgrinders (and there are A LOT of them) will be playing them. Most of us play 10-20 tables all sunday, and adding heads-up tables is near impossible. I think it would be a much smarter decision to have them some other day, preferably saturday.
I know it's too late to do anything about now, but please keep it in mind next time your having wcoop/scoop/boop

Bryan,

The people have spoken, and the clock is ticking! What say you?

Wow. Poker Stars always seems like they totally know what they're doing, but this post just shows a massive lack of understanding. I would be willing to bet that there's not a single person who can beat the average 109 on Stars who thinks that the starting BB in a HU tournament is irrelevant.

NLHE plays incredibly differently with different stack sizes. It's painfully obvious how true this is. If two competent players are 20 BBs deep and the BU gets A9s and the BB gets A6o, they're getting all in preflop 100% of the time. If they're 100+ BBs deep, BB might even just muck to one raise, and they're never getting more than like 12 BBs each in preflop. If you're 100 BBs deep, 3-betting from the BB has tons of FE. 200 BBs deep, it has soooo much less.

I mean.. I could spout off forever on the differences between the two stacks. But, basically, it's scary to think that you guys are basing your decisions off of information from people who are that clueless.

We were talking about the difference between the current structure and how it would be with the insertion of 15/30 or 20/40 at the beginning (or both), as we don't have the ability to change the starting stack... thus if we were to make any change, it would be in the structure. That's quite different from talking about the disparity between, say, a starting stack of 100BB and one of 500BB. In any case, there's nothing to fear... we seek a wide variety of opinions on many issues, including this one.

Even adding the two levels would be a good improvement.

Yes, either way its the same thing, double starting stack or half the blinds, do something!!!

Daniel's mental gymnastics skills have certainly declined over the years.

YEAH THE STRUCTURE DOESNT MATTER POKERSTARS PROS GOOD ****ING CALL

PokerStars Game #27013496654: Tournament #200904213, $25000+$500 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level II (30/60) - 2009/04/12 14:46:58 ET
Table '200904213 3' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: CADX2 (7535 in chips)
Seat 2: supernova9 (2465 in chips)
CADX2: posts small blind 30
supernova9: posts big blind 60
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to supernova9 [8d 9h]
CADX2: raises 60 to 120
supernova9: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [3s 9d 8c]
supernova9: checks
CADX2: bets 180
supernova9: raises 360 to 540
CADX2: raises 6875 to 7415 and is all-in
supernova9: calls 1805 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (5070) returned to CADX2
*** TURN *** [3s 9d 8c] [Jc]
*** RIVER *** [3s 9d 8c Jc] [Qh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
supernova9: shows [8d 9h] (two pair, Nines and Eights)
CADX2: shows [Qd 9c] (two pair, Queens and Nines)
CADX2 collected 4930 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4930 | Rake 0
Board [3s 9d 8c Jc Qh]
Seat 1: CADX2 (button) (small blind) showed [Qd 9c] and won (4930) with two pair, Queens and Nines
Seat 2: supernova9 (big blind) showed [8d 9h] and lost with two pair, Nines and Eights

LIFE TILT

I just busted both medium and low HU tourneys and those were the ones I was looking forward today. I'm so tilted. Structure was terrible too btw.

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I meant a normal HUSNG, even a $6 turbo gives you 75 bbs to start, so for $25K you get 100bb, $1000 a bb.

can't believe there were 32 people that were baller enough to play this crapshoot. I wonder how many of the Stars pros giving advise didn't put up their own $ or didn't play. Also from watching HSP this year, it definitely seems DN has less and less of an edge the deeper the stacks get against decent players.

Although for the HU-H they met the 800K guarantee, I bet lots of people un-registered or decided not to register at all due to the structure...and they could have gotten 64 players, but what a travesty...something that I did not expect from PS...oh well...

pretty lame, also woulda been in there if structure was better

its really unbelievable to me that this problem wasn't fixed, it was so egregious and obvious and stars is usually very responsive to the players (except for creating high stakes HU cash tables asdfhjsdjfsdj)

I'm pretty dissapointed that Ansky and Apathy both played after both implied they wouldn't play if the structure wasn't changed. It makes it seem like poker players just make idle threats that they won't follow. It kind've feels like PokerStars will just say "F it, they are going to play anyway whats the point of giving into what they want."

32 is still pretty weak sauce, how many has the FTP $25K gotten? and have they done 1 or 2 of these?

I didn't say I wouldn't play.

structure sucked bryan, im one of the handful of high stakes players you have left and i didn't play because it sucked so bad. you guys also suck at listening to people who know **** about poker, but are good at listening to people who are terrible at poker.

After looking at your posts more carefully you didn't say you wouldn't play, sorry about that. FTP closed registration at 32, there were more reg'd but they didn't want any byes. FTP and Stars bothg got 64 for their past 25k HU tourneys.