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SCOOP 22$ Turn shove +45bb TOP10 pot SCOOP 22$ Turn shove +45bb TOP10 pot

05-21-2018 , 03:03 PM
Hi, is my shove correct on this turn?

PokerStars - 1250/2500 Ante 325 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): 54.57 BB
UTG: 18.11 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
UTG+1: 25.92 BB (VPIP: 15.52, PFR: 12.28, 3Bet Preflop: 8.47, Hands: 116)
MP: 55.62 BB (VPIP: 23.81, PFR: 19.05, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 21)
MP+1: 37.25 BB (VPIP: 15.00, PFR: 15.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
CO: 14.59 BB (VPIP: 23.81, PFR: 9.52, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 21)
BTN: 66.88 BB (VPIP: 19.05, PFR: 4.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
SB: 73.81 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 21)

8 players post ante of 0 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.54 BB) Hero has A 2

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to 2.27 BB, fold, BTN calls 2.27 BB, SB calls 1.77 BB, Hero calls 1.27 BB

Flop: (10.12 BB, 4 players) 7 6 2
SB checks, Hero checks, MP+1 bets 3.44 BB, BTN calls 3.44 BB, fold, Hero calls 3.44 BB

Turn: (20.44 BB, 3 players) 2
Hero checks, MP+1 bets 6.74 BB, BTN calls 6.74 BB, Hero raises to 48.73 BB and is all-in, MP+1 calls 24.67 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 41.99 BB

River: (149.31 BB, 3 players) 9

Hero shows A 2 (Three of a Kind, Twos)

Main Pot [114.68 BB]: (Pre 26%, Flop 4%, Turn 2%)
Side Pot#1 [34.63 BB]: (Pre 32%, Flop 4%, Turn 2%)

BTN shows 7 7 (Full House, Sevens full of Twos)

Main Pot [114.68 BB]: (Pre 56%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
Side Pot#1 [34.63 BB]: (Pre 68%, Flop 96%, Turn 98%)

MP+1 shows 6 6 (Full House, Sixes full of Twos)

Main Pot [114.68 BB]: (Pre 18%, Flop 5%, Turn 2%)

BTN wins 149.31 BB
SCOOP 22$ Turn shove +45bb TOP10 pot Quote
05-23-2018 , 09:07 AM
As played, I feel shoving the turn is completely fine. You obviously got very unlucky, but at 22$ especially people are going to call you off with a bunch of stuff you are crushing, such as overpairs.

One thing I question in this hand is preflop. Do we really want to go 4-ways with A2o OOP? I know we are "getting amazing pot odds with an Ace" but unless we flop two pair we can never be too happy about it. Looks like a huge RIO spot to me. I personally like a fold pre due to it being multiway. Thoughts?
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05-23-2018 , 10:41 AM
you basically have the 3rd nuts OTT, shoving turn is trivial and I guess as played it's a pretty gross cooler to run into effectively the nuts and 2nd nuts.

But pre is an awful defend IMO. What wer'e you hoping would happen by defending this hand? You flop an ace on occasion and when that happens you either win nothing else post-flop or you get dominated by a better ace. You make a wheel once in a while, but with this many callers and at these stakes all the {76s} combos are in each of villains ranges so you're getting beaten by a better straight some non-zero amount of the time.
SCOOP 22$ Turn shove +45bb TOP10 pot Quote
05-23-2018 , 01:52 PM
Pre is a very std defend^
Nh /ul
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05-23-2018 , 09:37 PM
Fold flop seems standard at this stack depth seems standard only reason to call flop here is to blast off on spade turns but we are too deep for that here
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05-23-2018 , 09:38 PM
Well a combination of too deep and not deep enough imo
SCOOP 22$ Turn shove +45bb TOP10 pot Quote
05-26-2018 , 12:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lolposting2016
Pre is a very std defend^
+1...but not a huge fan of the flop overcall tho...esp with the shortest eff stack betting...he cbet into 3 callers and will have 1.5x pot ott. Far behind both MP1 and BTN ranges...won't get to SD...almost impossible to improve...no implied odds/won't realize our equity on a spade turn etc...

Should just fold pre if you're gonna be tempted to cont otf imo.

Oh and OP...no need to post results. Wait...set over set...zomg so sick...
SCOOP 22$ Turn shove +45bb TOP10 pot Quote
05-26-2018 , 12:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by erc007
+1...but not a huge fan of the flop overcall tho...esp with the shortest eff stack betting...he cbet into 3 callers and will have 1.5x pot ott. Far behind both MP1 and BTN ranges...won't get to SD...almost impossible to improve...no implied odds/won't realize our equity on a spade turn etc...

Should just fold pre if you're gonna be tempted to cont otf imo.

Oh and OP...no need to post results. Wait...set over set...zomg so sick...
+1, call pre, fold otf.
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