[converted_hand][hand_history]IPoker, $4.55 Buy-in (20/40 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
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MP3: 2,625 (65.6 bb)
CO: 3,045 (76.1 bb)
BTN: 3,150 (78.8 bb)
SB: 3,030 (75.8 bb)
Hero (BB): 3,393 (84.8 bb)
UTG+1: 2,587 (64.7 bb)
UTG+2: 2,760 (69 bb)
MP1: 3,580 (89.5 bb)
MP2: 2,905 (72.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2 Q
5 folds, CO raises to 80, BTN folds, SB calls 60, Hero calls 40

Flop: (240) 9 3 4 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: (240) T (3 players)
SB bets 80, Hero calls 80, CO folds

River: (400) Q (2 players)
SB bets 120, Hero raises to 320, SB calls 200

What was your rationale for calling pre?

its fine.

Wp

Horrible hand, fold pre, flat the river. What's the point of calling pre and raising the river? You get value from nothing and you're basically bluffing with tp.

I think folding pre will be huge mistake considering positions, price and stacks depth.
Our hand is quite playable, can make a good flush (nut flush on some textures) which dominate many smaller flushes, we`ll be often good with a pair of queens.
We only need to avoid disaster with pair of ducks to play this hand well generally.

Otr he has all Tx, 9x with that sizing and are you saying brother people in $5 tourneys are folding pairs nowadays?
yes occasionally he will have QJ or KQ(which should be discounted a bit).

I like both raise otr and sizing tbh.

I would just call river

We should fold junk in the blinds, it's really that simple. This hand has massive reverse implied odds. Why do you want to turn the river into a bluff? What are you doing if he 3b's the river? Do you mean the position of the raiser? If that's the case then why not 3b pre? Why play a very marginal hand (at best) oop? People massively over value their skill levels and the utility of their stack depths.

What worse do you think he calls on the river?

this hand doesn`t have massive rio at this stack depth cmon.
We`re raising for value bc his like looks weak and we are likely ahead of his range.
If he 3bets its a fold.

Me too. Unless we know he's weak and/or stationary I don't see too many hands that will call a river raise that we beat.

What???? The deeper you are the more RIO you have cmon. What worse hands does he call with?

Lol raise...If V doesn't ever call worse then that would mean we can always bluff these spots...He should call with 9X or 10x. I don't think it's too thin...If it were too thin, does that mean we should bluff raise all our missed draws on this kind of river?

Why would villain check a 9 otf? How do you figure we can always bluff these spots if villain doesn't ever call with worse? He can have sets, 2pr etc. Why should he call with 9x/Tx? I don't get what you mean by if it's too thin to raise the river (we just want to showdown....not get dusted off our hand by raising and not showing) then we can bluff raise our missed draws? Firstly to bluff our draws we have to think he's betting the turn/river weak and then going to fold to our raise (raise is too small anyways if we're raising). The key to bluffing is you have to give villain a range where there's a gap between what he's betting with and calling with. So we can't really bluff profitably if the only worse hands he's betting river with are 9x and Tx. We're essentially bluffing our tp here.

Like if villain raises us off our TP here and we have to fold that is literally a disaster. I mean it would so much equity spew for nothing. He'd have to think you're bluffing a busted draw to call with 9x/Tx.

But I digress.