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01-30-2012 , 08:16 AM

silentweed

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Live superstack £150+15 buy-in tournament in London.

The blinds were at 2000/4000 with a 400 ante ... I'm sitting with 52,000. I wake up UTG with AQ off. I ship it ... it's time to double up or go home, I think!!

Folds all the way around to the BB ... he goes into the tank.. i think he has about 120,000 ... he finally calls with pocket 10s. He wins the race... I stumble out

Did I make the right or wrong shove? What would you do?

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01-30-2012 , 08:25 AM

j0u

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std shove!

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01-30-2012 , 08:28 AM

LeProtagonist

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Doubt you would post this if you had won the race

. Good shove though.

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01-30-2012 , 08:37 AM

silentweed

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Thanks guys .... true LeProt ... I thought it was the right shove....was doubting it a bit cos my mate was saying maybe I should have folded as I still had a lot of play left.

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01-30-2012 , 08:48 AM

AntsMcPants

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pretty std shove ... most people in live mtts have no clue of correct shoving and calling ranges so its a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuge +EV spot to shove this

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01-30-2012 , 01:25 PM

silentweed

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Thanks for your feedback guys .. yeh I felt it was the right shove.. but it's always good to confirm

Yeah my friend is really tight..he doesn't understand shoving ranges properly yet

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01-30-2012 , 03:59 PM

gregz41

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poker is dead [ ]

standard shove

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01-30-2012 , 04:17 PM

brandnew342

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no money in live mtt's everyone's tank/calling UTG 12bb shoves w TT...not shoving here would be among the worst ever

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01-31-2012 , 07:03 AM

silentweed

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But do you really think he should have called with 10's? Hes quite comfortable in chips, its most likely a coinflip at best and at worst he's crushed. Plus my shove was from UTG. Maybe he could/should have folded 10s?

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01-31-2012 , 12:05 PM

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gregz41

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nope folding is **** stupid. standard hand is standard.

For him to consider folding TT you have to be shoving like JJ+AK which is just not realistic.

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01-31-2012 , 01:18 PM

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CalPokerDude

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Originally Posted by silentweed

Depends on a few things...

1) full table, or short?
2) how close to bubble?
3) what is the OPs image at the table?

I think the tank is proper, and w/o any other info, call with TT is not bad. Chances are it is a wcs race. He could the over pair a lot if the time.

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01-31-2012 , 01:34 PM

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gregz41

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lol live players

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01-31-2012 , 03:05 PM

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oakwalds3

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Raise to 12k

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02-01-2012 , 08:49 AM

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silentweed

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Quite close to the bubble 15 places paid , I think about 24/25 players left. Full table. No image as I was new to the table.

Oak I think its either a fold or shove... I can't raise to 12k with my stack!!

Thanks all for your input

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02-01-2012 , 05:30 PM

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badabamboozle

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Shove and nothing else.

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02-01-2012 , 09:25 PM

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CalPokerDude

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Originally Posted by silentweed

Yea, I think the hands played themselves. Nothing either of you could have done differently.

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