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09-03-2010 , 10:35 AM
Right to shove?


Poker Stars $2.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t20/t40 Blinds - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: t5635 140.88 BBs
BTN: t1785 44.62 BBs
SB: t1775 44.38 BBs
Hero (BB): t2900 72.50 BBs
UTG: t1850 46.25 BBs
UTG+1: t1905 47.62 BBs
MP1: t2095 52.38 BBs
MP2: t1910 47.75 BBs

Pre Flop: (t60) Hero is BB with 6 8
UTG calls t40, 2 folds, MP2 calls t40, CO calls t40, BTN calls t40, SB calls t20, Hero checks

Flop: (t240) 7 9 T (6 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t200, UTG calls t200, MP2 calls t200, CO folds, BTN calls t200, SB folds

Turn: (t1040) K (4 players)
Hero bets t2660 all in, UTG folds, MP2 calls t1670 all in, BTN calls t1545 all in

River: (t5925) K (3 players - 3 are all in)

Final Pot: t5925
BTN shows J K (three of a kind, Kings)
Hero shows 6 8 (a straight, Six to Ten)
MP2 shows 9 9 (a full house, Nines full of Kings)
MP2 wins t250
MP2 wins t5675
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09-03-2010 , 10:49 AM
Its unexploitable, but deff not optimal. Just go for the 725/jam line
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09-03-2010 , 12:29 PM
Wow, everyone had something there. Well that doesnt always happen. Actually you can count on it not happening 99% of the time.

Aside that, the turn push was a bit too much because there was no apparent threat out there. 1/2-2/3 size pot bet would have kept them on the string for longer if they were weaker. The only reason they called is because they each had something. But if they were drawing, then most likely would not have called ( but you never know ).

Point is the flop was unusually powerful for 2 of you and the other improved on the turn. This is rare, and for a 1/2-2/3 pot sized bet on the turn you could have got the same amount of information and kept a weaker draw on there. Usually you are ahead, but this is just one of those cases where you have to pay off the better hand with your flopped nuts.
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09-03-2010 , 02:56 PM
Yup

nh, but what else you gonna do?
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09-03-2010 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by seagraham
Its unexploitable, but deff not optimal. Just go for the 725/jam line
This AINEC. Shoving will rarely get called, you just happened to get lucky that one of the villains had trips (and then obv. UL with the river boat). Bet/shove is a much better line.
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09-03-2010 , 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by mmbossman
This AINEC. Shoving will rarely get called, you just happened to get lucky that one of the villains had trips (and then obv. UL with the river boat). Bet/shove is a much better line.
Yep.
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09-03-2010 , 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mmbossman
This AINEC. Shoving will rarely get called, you just happened to get lucky that one of the villains had trips (and then obv. UL with the river boat). Bet/shove is a much better line.
I agree with this
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