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09-27-2010 , 04:38 AM
Actually a couple of questions.. I'm moving up limits ant want to know what's the biggest difference between 2.2$ and 12$ 180 sngs? It's obvious there are more regs and less fish at 12$, but what I really want to know is how do you adapt to it: do you play tighter at the beginning? do call more wide bvb as you know the SB will be pushing atc? Any other thing you noticed that works at 2.2$ but doesn't work at 12$ and vice versa? That sort of stuff.

Also it would be interesting to know how many 2.2$ games you had before moving up. So far I got 3k games with 30% ROI.

As always, your answers are much appreciated
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09-27-2010 , 05:07 AM
mind sharing your sn on stars?
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09-27-2010 , 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by SenseiSingh
mind sharing your sn on stars?
edm1s. I believe we have played a few games together.
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09-27-2010 , 08:19 AM
never played the 2s but i'd just think the fish are the same but there are more regs so you need to adjust to their ranges
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09-27-2010 , 08:19 AM
also 3k games with 30% roi is enough start mixing in the 12s with your 2 dolla holla sets.
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09-27-2010 , 08:24 AM
I'm curious to know the main differences as well.

I do well at the $2 180s but I don't feel like I can do well at the $12's yet.
"Sandviper23" on stars
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09-27-2010 , 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by fightingcoward
also 3k games with 30% roi is enough start mixing in the 12s with your 2 dolla holla sets.
Whats an average good ROI at the 12's these days?
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09-27-2010 , 07:00 PM
so what, no 12$ regs in here?
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09-27-2010 , 10:40 PM
The biggest difference will be your br in 1 direction or the other direction
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09-28-2010 , 03:08 AM
How many tables do you play? You usually have a few guys at the table that play 10+ tables which give you some good opportunities if you can identify these guys. You usually can by the number of stars they have around their pic.

Don't expect people to call you as much with A-rag hands or dead pairs when you push.
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09-28-2010 , 03:31 AM
I play 10+ tables, bring it on.
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09-28-2010 , 06:50 AM
I thought all decent players play 10+ tables. Anything is less is -EV
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09-28-2010 , 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by edmis
I thought all decent players play 10+ tables. Anything is less is -EV
What do you base this on? Some guy running 10 tables and barely breaking even in the games? All studies performed show that the more tasks someone is performing the worse they do, the studies even show that the multitaskers do worse at multitasking then someone who doesn't multitask on a regular basis.

If you play against a multi tabler you will have great opportunities to get out of hands where you are an underdog and into hands where you are ahead. Most people miss this aspect of the game when they are chasing a bonus, rake back or some other strange aspect of the meta game that really have nothing to do with the game as such.
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09-28-2010 , 07:21 AM
I base this on simple maths. A good player can make more money playing 10 tables at once than if he was playing only one. Of course ROI for 10 tabling will be less than ROI of 1 tabling, but the actual $$$ made will be much higher when 10 tabling. It's just an example and I agree that at some point adding another table is not +EV due to multitasking reasons you mentioned. Anyways 10+ tables is not a lot.

How many tables do you play?
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09-28-2010 , 07:21 AM
Give me the name of a top reg that plays less than 10 tables pls.
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09-28-2010 , 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by edmis
How many tables do you play?
I would say 2-4 active tables, sometimes it will be 6 when I have a few heads up in a turbo or get short stacked when the blinds and ante starts to get trublesome.

If I play shorthanded I seldom have more then 2 active tables going.
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09-28-2010 , 07:33 AM
SN pls ?
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09-28-2010 , 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by BigFish2010
What do you base this on? Some guy running 10 tables and barely breaking even in the games? All studies performed show that the more tasks someone is performing the worse they do, the studies even show that the multitaskers do worse at multitasking then someone who doesn't multitask on a regular basis.

If you play against a multi tabler you will have great opportunities to get out of hands where you are an underdog and into hands where you are ahead. Most people miss this aspect of the game when they are chasing a bonus, rake back or some other strange aspect of the meta game that really have nothing to do with the game as such.
Dude wtf are you even talking about? Please do yourself a favor and stop posting in the strategy forums. A vast majority of your posts are complete nonsense and only serve to confuse the people who need help.

OP, I haven't played many 2.20's, but the 12's probably don't play much different. The average skill level is still extremely poor and there is plenty of room for profit. Just make sure your bankroll can handle large swings (>100 buyins) and don't get discouraged with daily results. As you mentioned, you will need to keep your eyes open for the regs who are shoving wide in position and adjust accordingly. In general though, a turbo 180 is a turbo 180 and I wouldn't worry too much about making huge adjustments. Just get in volume and you will make monies.
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09-28-2010 , 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by BigFish2010
I would say 2-4 active tables, sometimes it will be 6 when I have a few heads up in a turbo or get short stacked when the blinds and ante starts to get trublesome.

If I play shorthanded I seldom have more then 2 active tables going.
You sure you play 180 sngs?
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09-28-2010 , 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by edmis
You sure you play 180 sngs?
Seriously don't listen to anything BigFish ever says. If you aren't multitabling these 180's, you aren't making money.
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09-28-2010 , 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by edmis
You sure you play 180 sngs?
Not that often, I usually play 3/5 table SnG's and MTT's. I do not make a living on poker though, I play it for fun and not every day of the week.

You should not listen to the advice given by most posters in this forum if you want to become a good player. Most are breakeven bonus whores who talk **** about bonuses and rakeback ebing a part of their poekr earnings. Some even admit they are losing money at the tables but make up on it from the bonuses. Find out which are winners and which are whiners and only listen to the first one. A good source is - Internet Poker - if you want to know which is which.
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09-28-2010 , 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by BigFish2010
Not that often, I usually play 3/5 table SnG's and MTT's. I do not make a living on poker though, I play it for fun and not every day of the week.

You should not listen to the advice given by most posters in this forum if you want to become a good player. Most are breakeven bonus whores who talk **** about bonuses and rakeback ebing a part of their poekr earnings. Some even admit they are losing money at the tables but make up on it from the bonuses. Find out which are winners and which are whiners and only listen to the first one. A good source is - Internet Poker - if you want to know which is which.
DUDE. YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

POKERSTARS RARELY OFFERS BONUSES AND DOES NOT OFFER RAKEBACK.
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09-28-2010 , 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by bs_jayhawk
Seriously don't listen to anything BigFish ever says. If you aren't multitabling these 180's, you aren't making money.
I guess the name speaks for itself D
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09-28-2010 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by bs_jayhawk
DUDE. YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

POKERSTARS RARELY OFFERS BONUSES AND DOES NOT OFFER RAKEBACK.
I guess you should tell Poker Stars they don't.
http://www.pokerstars.com/vip/store/?cat=cash-bonus

You should also take the time to read this thread. Tell the people in this thread Poker Stars "RARELY OFFERS BONUSES" don't forget to capitalize the letters.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...-chart-683086/
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09-28-2010 , 11:43 AM
Big Fish, stars do not offer rakebake. That link compares PS Vip scheme to that of rakeback, but it is not rakeback.

Also, not many people in this forum talk about bonuses at all. That is mostly found in the Zoo.

Aside from that. I agree with all the points of bs_jayhawk made
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