i have no idea of correct calling ranges so Im a little lost if this is a think and call or superfastsnappump chair twirl high five monitor call

this is the 1st time I've seen villain shove

i just won the previous hand A5>QT bvb

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Poker Stars $75+$7 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t150/t300 Blinds - 6 players
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BB: t1282
UTG: t3100
MP: t1160
CO: t3105
Hero (BTN): t3040
SB: t1813

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN with Q Q
UTG raises to t3075 all in, 2 folds Hero?

Normally, when I see a big stack make a play like this, about 50% of the time it's a mid range PP, 40% it's AK, and the other 10% it's AA or KK where the raiser is hoping people think it's an insane steal and want to look him up.

The key thing to consider here is this might be a pure bubble bully move. UTG essentially has everyone covered and BB and SB have small stacks. He's basically saying to everyone "hey, go ahead and risk calling but if you lose you're gone." It also suggests to me that he does not want to see a flop.

These things widen his range considerably, and I'd call in your shoes. Yes, there's still a chance that this is a reverse psychology move where he has a monster and you'd be drawing for 2 outs, but the odds of that are less than of the situation being reversed (i.e., you having him dominated with a bigger pocket pair) so I'd still make this call.

Clearly a call here because he likely has a decent hand that doesn't want to see a flop. Very Rare IMO that he has AA or KK here because a lot of players with make the smaller raise with monsters hoping to get shoved on because it looks like they are trying to dominate the bubble. Decent chance you are up against AK here which is bad but a ton of underpairs and Ax hands make it very +EV.

If this was a satellite where top 5 spots all pay the same i'd say probably fold because you are virtually assured a spot. However with top 2 spots paying the higher amount you need to call here as this double up will let you make top 2 almost every time.

too late to edit but

fwiw

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i think it really depends on where you started in the steps...? did you start at step 1 and have climbed your way up? because if so, this is not the right time to bust out in the only position that doesnt get ANYTHING. if you have the bankroll to start off from step 3 or 4, than its a THANKSFORSHOVINGIMRIDINGTHISWINTOTHEWCOOP call. just my opinion.

snap call

If your this much of a nit, don't play pokers. Don't fold queens.

Villain is UTG shoving into the whole field (two of whom can virtually wipe him out). His range is narrow enough that you have to fold QQ on the bubble. You're basically tied for 1st and can't play for all your equity without evidence that he's out of line.

this is an instafold:
a) you're not the aggressor and would rather save those chips to be the aggressor later
b) SB/BB might still call
c) MP will hit the blinds before you, and they will probably be 200/400 by then considerign its a step 3
d) the fact that the top 3 spots pay out equally means that having a big stack matters much less than it would in a graduated SNG
e) hopefully you understand ICM better than your opponents

Instafold o rly ?

First of all, only top two advance, and you're far from there yet. And second, someone is shoving 3k chips in the middle that you are a huge favorite to take down because he will almost never do this with KK+. Basically you are advocating to play for 5th where you have an easy shot at a definitive top2.

It's a case of what j00hndayton said. If special relativity allows it, snapcall faster than light.

plz explain why this is a call in equity/ICM terms because, believe it or not, this is a tad more complicated than "omg were ahead of his range fist pump call"

for the non mathematically inclined: it is a disaster to bust out in 6th when there are 3 opponents with >2000 (2 with 1200ish) and the equity jump between 6th and 5th is so drastic. you are basically guaranteed 5th, and have a good shot at 1st/2nd. blinds are high and rising every 5 minutes, so you will have plenty of opportunities to get your stack in as the aggressor. your equity does not double when you double up, you will be busted out if you lose, and you should avoid making big calls because you are substantially increasing your opponents' prize pool equity whether you win or lose.

Not everything in SNGs/tournament poker is some cut and dry math problem. Even if you calculate your change in equity as a result of making this one call, ICM doesn't account for the fact that having a big stack will increase your chip intake later in the tournament, particularly in a Step tournament where you're not even playing for 1st- that is, other short/medium stacks benefit much, much more by taking each other out on the prize bubble than they do by doubling through you, making it very easy to secure a lead once you get it.

That said, this is an easy call even in some ICM vacuum.

http://www.chillin411.com/icmcalc.php

Prize distribution is 0.333/0.333/0.111/0.111/0.111.

Your equity at the start of the hand is 0.2012.

You gain 450+150+3075 (3675) chips if you call and win the pot. You would have 6715 chips.

Your adjusted equity when you call and win is 0.2820.

Now, let's assume he's shoving about the top 10% of hands, ATs+ and 7's+. Queens against that range is a 65% favorite, but realistically I seriously doubt you'll pretty much ever see AA or KK here. Adjusted with AA and KK removed makes QQ a 75% favorite, and making this an easy call since an 8% increase in equity is easily worth risking your 20% equity as a 3-to-1 favorite. As a 2-to-1 favorite (AA and KK included), it's a lot closer, but considering that a) his range rarely includes those hands and even if it does, the 65% figure doesn't factor in the possibility of him stealing with even weaker pocket pairs or suited connectors and b) the benefit of having a big stack I mentioned earlier, it's still a pretty clear call.

To be honest I don't even know why I went through the effort of writing this. This is such an intuitively obvious decision.

so people could tell you that your range for an UTG shove from a standard tight player with on the bubble is far too loose in this particular tournament and that discounting AA and KK here is borderline ******ed

Average stack is 7 big blinds (not including antes) and 77+/ATs+ is too loose for someone to shove 6 handed? Even if that were the case, it hardly matters. Calculating QQ against the top 5.6% (88+, AJs, AKo) is still 60% which doesn't change the final outcome at all, and if you think that's too loose, then I don't know what to tell you.

you are seeing AJ from this player almost never here, i would think his range should be AQ+, 99+ and his non-pair hands are heavily weighted towards AK since you have two queens in your hand already

this player's chip position relative to the other players is much more relevant than the number of big blinds in the average stack and he is pushing from UTG, this is not your average pushbot blind steal