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12-03-2013 , 12:49 PM

Brnas

journeyman

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 381

Poker Stars, $4.50 Buy-in (15/30 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #21306931

MP1: 1,775 (59.2 bb)
MP2: 1,440 (48 bb)
MP3: 1,625 (54.2 bb)
CO: 1,615 (53.8 bb)
Hero (BTN): 1,515 (50.5 bb)
SB: 1,380 (46 bb)
BB: 2,880 (96 bb)
UTG+2: 1,270 (42.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q

5 folds, Hero raises to 90, SB folds, BB calls 60

Flop: (195) 2

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 165, BB raises to 360, Hero ?

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villain 17/12 with 5% c/r after 2.7k hands

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12-03-2013 , 01:27 PM

Regret$

burnt out

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call, get it in turn >> shrug shove > sigh fold

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12-03-2013 , 03:01 PM

mattgood9

grinder

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Click it back and get it in.

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12-03-2013 , 10:24 PM

slayerv1fan

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Btn vs blind u cant fold, I probs call and GII OTT

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12-04-2013 , 06:04 AM

Monkey Banana

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I usually do the same as these guys and very often regret it.

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12-04-2013 , 07:25 AM

jaxtraw

old hand

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A good amount of turn cards can improve his hand or kill the action.

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12-04-2013 , 11:40 AM

LeaksSuck

old hand

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Originally Posted by jaxtraw

A good amount of turn cards can improve his hand or kill the action.

+1

shove flop imho

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12-05-2013 , 01:04 AM

Monkey Banana

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I don't think there are that many cards that improve his hand because he can realistically only have the one draw on this flop (maaaaaaaaaaybe the gutter too) and he shouldn't have that much Ax/Kx and some improves to a worse hand that he may not want to fold.

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12-05-2013 , 09:10 AM

jaxtraw

old hand

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I dont see many hands villain is going to barrel the turn that he wont get in on the flop. What is the benefit of waiting for the turn?

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12-05-2013 , 09:19 AM

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mattgood9

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 650

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Originally Posted by jaxtraw

I dont see many hands villain is going to barrel the turn that he wont get in on the flop. What is the benefit of waiting for the turn?

+1

Only reason to call is if villain will be bluffing with complete air. Far more semi bluffs and weaker hands in his range with some equity. Click it back or just shove.

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12-05-2013 , 09:23 AM

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LeaksSuck

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Clicking it back loks ridic strong even for fish I suppose. Also potentially allows him fold if he flats with a draw and misses.

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12-05-2013 , 12:58 PM

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Ronny Mahoni

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What hand can villain have that 3bets/fold flop, but bet/calls turn?

Especially since there are ~47% of turns where we dont want to get it in anymore (and he prolly neither, unless he has us beat then).

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12-05-2013 , 03:50 PM

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Regret$

burnt out

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 12,124

A draw that makes top pair and we get a bet from his b/f... assuming ofc we think he barrels turn. Think it depends on villain and maybe heros play.

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12-05-2013 , 08:02 PM

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Pokerlover222

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Shove

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