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QQ 4/180 facing huge reshove and call late QQ 4/180 facing huge reshove and call late

01-25-2010 , 09:03 AM
Poker Stars $4.00+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t400/t800 Blinds + t75 - 8 players
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UTG: t28321 M = 15.73
UTG+1: t2216 M = 1.23
MP1: t11830 M = 6.57
Hero (MP2): t19727 M = 10.96
CO: t27655 M = 15.36
BTN: t27204 M = 15.11
SB: t12209 M = 6.78
BB: t13660 M = 7.59

Pre Flop: (t1800) Hero is MP2 with Q Q
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t2141 all in, 1 fold, Hero raises to t3482, 1 fold, BTN raises to t27129 all in, SB calls t11734 all in, 1 fold, Hero ???
QQ 4/180 facing huge reshove and call late Quote
01-25-2010 , 09:53 AM
If SB not idiot - this AK, QQ++, BTN min TT++, AQ++. Fold imo.
QQ 4/180 facing huge reshove and call late Quote
01-25-2010 , 10:03 AM
doubt i can fold QQ late in a 4/180 although you're gonna be beat often
QQ 4/180 facing huge reshove and call late Quote
01-25-2010 , 10:08 AM
3bet larger and never fold.
QQ 4/180 facing huge reshove and call late Quote
01-25-2010 , 10:30 AM
Raise bigger... you're effed as played. Button should show up with a monster here if he has a brain.
QQ 4/180 facing huge reshove and call late Quote
01-25-2010 , 11:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeyJoJo Shabadu
Button should show up with a monster here if he has a brain.
Really, I think this is a std ISO by button (thanks to Hero's weak weak raise pre) with what can be a reasonable range, AJs+ AQo 99+. With two to act, he's feelin good that neither of the blinds have a hand that can continue. Unlucky for BTN, SB woke up with something he likes.

SB is what you have to be worried about, because if he is at all competent, hes got Hero with a good range, BTN with a slightly stronger range, which should narrow him to monsters.

The good news is you are ahead of BTNs range, and have the SB covered, so get it in and win the side pot. You will end with just a little less chips than you started, and if SB is a spaz, you got a top 3 chip stack.

Oh yea, raise way more pre FFS. Like 2.5-3x UTG.
QQ 4/180 facing huge reshove and call late Quote
01-25-2010 , 11:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ardent Raynor
If SB not idiot - this AK, QQ++, BTN min TT++, AQ++. Fold imo.
Don't FOLD! You have the side pot against the BTN who you should be ahead of!

Results please! I'd love to see these two villain's ranges.
EDIT: it would not shock me to see you had the best hand here.
QQ 4/180 facing huge reshove and call late Quote
01-25-2010 , 02:58 PM
button had KK
sb had AA
QQ 4/180 facing huge reshove and call late Quote
01-25-2010 , 03:00 PM
its still such a standard 3bet/call
QQ 4/180 facing huge reshove and call late Quote
01-25-2010 , 04:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by furo
its still such a standard 3bet/call
Yep.
QQ 4/180 facing huge reshove and call late Quote
01-25-2010 , 04:20 PM
as played, I can find a fold but it's awful

make it like 6K pre, and this becomes a moot point
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01-25-2010 , 04:27 PM
I really hate the minimum raise isolation play. However, it seems to have worked out, since two uncommitted players who knew they were facing strong holdings willingly put all their chips on the line. I think folding once it gets back to you is fine, but I really do hate the minimum raise, since it is difficult to balance and not worthwhile
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01-25-2010 , 04:32 PM
i see A7s/22/KJo calls/minraises here on the FT every time, so no way they asume (if they are competent) that this action is scary and therefor they play 99 or AQs any different than exactly this way
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