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10-22-2020 , 09:14 AM

Moreconfusednow

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16.50$ tourney, large field 2k+.
like 10 tables left. in the money, people playing super cautious.

V 1,900,000 chips
H 2,300,000
chip average roughly 900k

bb had 750,000k....was playing super tight.

Villain utg+2 limps 60k
Hero Button Q

3.5 x to like 195k

flop 5

pot 540,000

V checks.
Hero bets 270k
v calls

turn 5

pot 1,080,000

v checks
Hero?????? Has like 1,700,000 behind, like 1,200,000 effective...
do we jam? bet small? check?

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10-22-2020 , 11:20 AM

ratio946

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I think 30bb eff we should fold pre, if we play I prefer bigger raise 4bb+
flop I like a check, are we playing for stacks? If bet make it smaller, 1/3 or less

what range are you putting V on on turn?

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10-22-2020 , 01:38 PM

Moreconfusednow

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Originally Posted by ratio946

All Fair points. Probably delayed c-bet makes a lot of sense i guess.

when he first limped i figured 75% pairs...and some Axs, kq, 10j, 78....maybe limping huge but when he doesnt re-raise discounted.

Flop call....range 55-10's, kj, 10j,78, hearts(Ax and others), a5s...
so either crushed or far ahead on turn....i think as played bombing turn is play but other people know better then me so asking.

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10-22-2020 , 03:22 PM

insomnia666

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OTT can be jam, but I think it is more profitable to check back. OTR depends on the card. Don't bet small. Without good info...

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10-27-2020 , 09:39 PM

Moreconfusednow

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Originally Posted by insomnia666

OTT can be jam, but I think it is more profitable to check back. OTR depends on the card. Don't bet small. Without good info...

i checked and called a tiny bet though i was pretty sure i was dead. he showed nut flush. regretted not jamming turn but not sure best play.

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10-27-2020 , 11:10 PM

killer_kill

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I know this may sound weird and nitty but I highly prefer either 33% or 66% typically on flop bets. I think 50% isn't great. I also don't mind overlimping in position as well. We want to defend our button but it's awkward if we get raised somewhat.

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11-02-2020 , 12:09 PM

ratio946

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Be interested to know how I should construct an overlimping range, I tend to include more suited connectors and stronger hands which dominate to overlimp. QJo I would be raising or folding, is this a mistake?

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11-02-2020 , 10:40 PM

killer_kill

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Overlimping is a rare situation that I wouldn't really worry about structuring tbh. There's much better ways to spend your time constructing ranges. But a quick answer is I tend to overlimp hands that don't want to fold but are meh to isolate.

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11-02-2020 , 10:41 PM

killer_kill

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I'm honestly not sure tho about QJo tbh cause I don't really study those spots. It's prob better to fold than to iso QJo.

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11-12-2020 , 12:49 PM

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ratio946

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Agreed I think it's a fold

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