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07-19-2008 , 03:40 PM

Eihli

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Nowhere near the money. No read on the raiser, but I've been playing pretty tight. Even if pushing is +EV, would calling or raising less be more profitable?

Poker Stars $20+$2 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t75/t150 Blinds - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: t3150
UTG: t3075
UTG+1: t7230
UTG+2: t2975
MP1: t4400
MP2: t6375
Hero (CO): t8510
BTN: t8535
SB: t6150

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with 9

4 folds, MP2 raises to t375, Hero raises to t8510 all in

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07-19-2008 , 04:16 PM

fizix87

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Shoving for 40bb effective seems a little excessive - i think i prefer either a smaller 3 bet (like 1500) or just a flat

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07-19-2008 , 04:25 PM

Eihli

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Originally Posted by fizix87

Shoving for 40bb effective seems a little excessive - i think i prefer either a smaller 3 bet (like 1500) or just a flat

That's what I was thinking at first, but I thought raise/folding was bad, and if I just called, I'd try to get it all-in on an 8 high board, but didn't know what to do if overcards fell.

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07-19-2008 , 04:32 PM

fizix87

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Originally Posted by Eihli

That's what I was thinking at first, but I thought raise/folding was bad, and if I just called, I'd try to get it all-in on an 8 high board, but didn't know what to do if overcards fell.

That is true but i dont think it means that shoving is the best play

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07-19-2008 , 04:41 PM

RemyXO

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Hate it. Flatting or raising is so much better.

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07-19-2008 , 04:42 PM

Eihli

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Originally Posted by fizix87

That is true but i dont think it means that shoving is the best play

Aye, so assuming it's heads up after you're action, what's your plan if you

3bet and
1. get pushed preflop
2. get called, overcards flop, checked to you

Call and
1. overcards flop and he bets
2. overcards flop and he checks

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07-19-2008 , 04:48 PM

RemyXO

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Originally Posted by Eihli

1. Eazy fold. Use all your timebank though.
2. C-bet like 110% of the time, but don't overcommit. 1/2 to 2/3 pot or thereabouts. I expect to take it down a lot of times, give up the hand if you are called and don't improve.

1. Depends on flop and bet size. If it's one overcard ... and maybe you pick a draw ... Can try flatting the flop and taking it away from him on the turn. Decision here is not clear-cut.
2. Bet.

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07-19-2008 , 04:49 PM

palkpal

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Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 320

this play is not lag it's just bad....

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07-19-2008 , 05:27 PM

areaman

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Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 13,213

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Originally Posted by palkpal

this play is not lag it's just bad....

+1

no antes, still have a nice stack, have no idea what youre doing here.

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