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06-15-2015 , 03:19 AM

Gh0stface66

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 108

$7 turbo MTT. ITM already. 13 Players remaining.
Blinds: 1600-3200
4 players left behind me. My chip stack = 23k chips
All stacks behind me = 20-45k

I hold J-Qs. Push or fold? What is our range here considering ICM?

If I push the J-Qs and get called I expect to be behind/crushed or at very best flipping against an underpair. Considering we are so close to the FT and it feels as though even if I allow the blinds to pass through me and attempt to double on the next orbit with a more premium hand or a better spot I will still double up to about 40k and make it to the FT.

Thoughts?

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06-15-2015 , 05:15 AM

Gh0stface66

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 108

Am I being a super nit if I fold this or should I ship it every-time and hope for the best?

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06-15-2015 , 05:44 AM

wiseguy29

enthusiast

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 50

Seeing the blind- and stacksizes, icm will be an issue at the finaltable.
I would ship it all the time. The blinds are coming and your M is below 5.

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06-15-2015 , 05:55 AM

AALegend

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Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 2,179

You have 7BB. It might be your last chance to push while having significant fold equity.

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06-15-2015 , 06:09 AM

Dragons_Egg

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Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 4,861

we care about just making the final table because.....?

You should be playing 6 or 7 handed, which means you hit the blinds in a hand or two.

Snap shove

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06-15-2015 , 06:30 AM

MikeT300

newbie

Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 33

With 7bb and the blinds hitting you in 1 or 2 hands, you're not in a position to sit and wait for a monster. GII while you still have some fold equity. Besides, suited Broadway connectors aren't necessarily a horrible hand to have here. If someone had opened ahead of you I'd consider laying it down, but not in this situation.

Edit: Typo

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06-16-2015 , 08:23 PM

Gh0stface66

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 108

Thanks everyone. I agree and I did ship this hand but sadly lost to A-9o.

Can any experienced commenter define or edit my range below that you would ship in this spot?

A-x
Any two broadway cards (suited or unsuited)
All pairs

Can we include suited 6-7, 7-8, 9-10 ?????????

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06-16-2015 , 09:21 PM

TellMeMore

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 379

yes you are a supernit

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06-18-2015 , 08:05 PM

ElectricPace

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Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 5

3200+1600+7(150 ante?) = 5850

5850 / 23000 = 25% chip up if they all fold

Chance of them wanting to risk there tourney with anything minimal, low. (Top 15% of hands?)

If they do call your probably flipping or have at least some good equity.

Shove er in every time

(I agree with your range)

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