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04-03-2012 , 01:46 PM
    Poker Stars, $6.37 Buy-in (75/150 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12432882

    BTN: 3,738 (24.9 bb)
    SB: 2,605 (17.4 bb)
    Hero (BB): 3,223 (21.5 bb)
    UTG: 1,233 (8.2 bb)
    MP: 1,056 (7 bb)
    CO: 1,645 (11 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with K A
    2 folds, CO raises to 450, BTN raises to 2,250, Hero facing Ak and cursing BTN



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    CO 17/13 per 70hands, btn 23/16 per 350 hands?

    I quess easy fold? O could I find shove anywhere?
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    04-03-2012 , 03:27 PM
    oh you can find a shove everywhere.


    co should never be folding after he 3x whatever he feels the need to 3x there so just treat it like he jammed.

    btn, well who knows what his 3b tendencies are but most 23/16 types can 3b crap like AQ/99 etc. But eve if we think btn is only 3b'ing AQ/TT+ we still have enough equity to jam because of all the dead money out there. plus we have blockers on AA and KK.

    If you had some more reads on btn's 3b tendencies you could consider folding but id just ship it and take some notes.
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    04-03-2012 , 05:58 PM
    Shove but I think I prob fold AQ here some of the time :/
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    04-03-2012 , 06:27 PM


    Last edited by MetalSpork; 04-03-2012 at 06:32 PM.
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    04-03-2012 , 06:33 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SkinnyStax
    oh you can find a shove everywhere.


    co should never be folding after he 3x whatever he feels the need to 3x there so just treat it like he jammed.

    btn, well who knows what his 3b tendencies are but most 23/16 types can 3b crap like AQ/99 etc. But eve if we think btn is only 3b'ing AQ/TT+ we still have enough equity to jam because of all the dead money out there. plus we have blockers on AA and KK.

    If you had some more reads on btn's 3b tendencies you could consider folding but id just ship it and take some notes.
    I think CO is folding a decent amount if we get it in. But the important part is the button's range. If he's on TT+,AQ+, calling here with AKs is quite bad. I suspect he's a little wider, but it's still a fold.
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    04-03-2012 , 08:01 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by JoeSchmo
    If he's on TT+,AQ+, calling here with AKs is quite good.
    fyp

    Hand 0: 51.649% 42.01% 09.64% 32370063 7427680.50 { AhKh }
    Hand 1: 48.351% 38.71% 09.64% 29828256 7427680.50 { AcAd, AcAs, AdAs, KcKd, KcKs, KdKs, QQ-TT, AcKc, AdKd, AsKs, AcQc, AdQd, AsQs, AcKd, AcKs, AdKc, AdKs, AsKc, AsKd, AcQd, AcQh, AcQs, AdQc, AdQh, AdQs, AsQc, AsQd, AsQh }
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    04-03-2012 , 08:32 PM
    I like a fold, 3x from co tightens his range significantly and BTNs too. Not like we're ever some massive favorite here

    If it wasn't the massive CL jamming into our a huge stack and the stacks were more even across the table I'd call

    edit: everyone always thinks AK is the nuts vs 2 shoves ! villains seem sane and it isnt an mtt
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    04-03-2012 , 10:10 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SkinnyStax
    fyp

    Hand 0: 51.649% 42.01% 09.64% 32370063 7427680.50 { AhKh }
    Hand 1: 48.351% 38.71% 09.64% 29828256 7427680.50 { AcAd, AcAs, AdAs, KcKd, KcKs, KdKs, QQ-TT, AcKc, AdKd, AsKs, AcQc, AdQd, AsQs, AcKd, AcKs, AdKc, AdKs, AsKc, AsKd, AcQd, AcQh, AcQs, AdQc, AdQh, AdQs, AsQc, AsQd, AsQh }
    How are you justifying ignoring ICM in this hand? MetalSpork's wiz shot shows a whopping -3.46% for this call vs. a 10% range. It'd be worse vs. TT+,AQ+.
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    04-03-2012 , 10:34 PM

    Last edited by MetalSpork; 04-03-2012 at 10:37 PM. Reason: WTF?
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    04-03-2012 , 10:53 PM
    its 6max not 9max right?
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    04-03-2012 , 11:28 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SkinnyStax
    its 6max not 9max right?
    No, the chips add up to 13500.

    As for the hand this is a fold with any reasonable ranges assigned to CO and button given this action. You can find better spots in future hands pwning the 7 and 8 BB stacks to your immediate left.
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    04-04-2012 , 12:07 AM
    ooh nm then
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