Poker Stars $50+$5 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (CO): t2980
BTN: t2935
SB: t6500
BB: t2850
UTG: t2970
UTG+1: t2930
UTG+2: t2865
MP1: t2970
MP2: t2910

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with K K
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to t40, MP1 calls t40, 1 fold, Hero raises to t180, 4 folds, MP1 calls t140

Flop: (t430) 8 9 5 (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets t225, MP1 raises to t600, Hero ...

5th hand, no read. Do you fold why? Do you 3b flop why? If you call, how do you react to turn?

Thanks

Really ugly spot, but I still think I ship it in. Calling doesn't really make any sense because you find out nothing about his hand and will have to shove on most turns anyway. I see him calling your AI and turning up 89 or a set alot here, but you couldn't have asked for a much better flop and there is always the chance he is overplaying 79/910/j9/q9/a9 or even making a strange c/r bluff.

pls never lead this small then fold...this small c/r is the way donks "find out where they're at"...obv it can also be a set inducing, but never fold the flop.

I 3bet to 220ish, people aren't that good in that tourney and if they call a 3bet, they will call any 3bet as soon as they commit money to their hand, in my experience. 3bet or shove flop, villain will do this with a 9+semi-decent kicker, and overpairs smaller than yours, as well as sometimes even 66-77 and other trash who don't believe you've hit that flop and there's the slight chance of someone having T9 for an oesd.

Worst case scenario is obviously AA, a set or made straight. AA is unlikely as I don't believe anyone this early in a tourney would call a minraise from utg+2 with AA, and then coldcall a 3bettor.
The hands that have you beat are 88/99/55/76xx, which is only a small part - at least if it is part of it all - from an average villain's range in the hand up until the flopik .

As any 6 7 9 T or even an ace on the turn would suck so betting is a must imo, although a shove might have less value than a very small 3bet here. A small 3bet is good instead of a shove here if you suspect villain to be weak but aggressive, it can give them false hope of having any FE or you being weak. In this case, if he ships it call, and if he just flats - whatever card comes on the turn, call or shove.

By the way, I'm pretty new at 2p2, came from a Dutch forum hope you find my reasoning is sensible.

I think my small lead made this hand harder to play since it made it CR inducing.

If I lead 330 and got CR to 850. Same thing, 3 bet shove?

btw, I call. Pot 1500
Turn (A) he bet out 1000 and I folded.

agree with erc...if he calls the big pre bet you can go ahead and bet bigger on flop....and I think you 4 bet flop big and I don't mind committing here...people play whacky bad in the 50

Yes. Bet more on flop, then shove or fold to his 3-bet. Everything else is fine. Preflop I'm ok with. clng his bet on flop is going to accomplish nothing at all for you. If you're thinking you're controlling pot size you're wrong because if villain flopped a set he's almost certainly gettin all his chips in one way or another and you're still forced to a decision. That being said this hand could go either way real tough spot, but it's a shove or fold on flop, not a flat, that's all.

This was a yucky board to face a CR with its texture. But I can see how betting the flop also makes the 3b All-in smoother 330-->850-->2200 AI

Thanks for the replies