PokerStars Game #21756714715: Tournament #117601470, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/11/04 14:02:14 ET
Table '117601470 237' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: guzzijerry (3000 in chips)
Seat 2: blastah-man (3000 in chips)
Seat 4: dbkpoker (3040 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 5: kasey_gcp (2950 in chips)
Seat 6: lakeman421 (2960 in chips)
Seat 7: jussblaze420 (3050 in chips)
Seat 8: danielking87 (3000 in chips)
Seat 9: custom158 (3000 in chips) is sitting out
jussblaze420: posts small blind 10
danielking87: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jussblaze420 [Ah Js]
custom158: folds
guzzijerry: calls 20
blastah-man: folds
dbkpoker: folds
kasey_gcp: folds
lakeman421: folds
jussblaze420: raises 80 to 100
danielking87: folds
guzzijerry: calls 80
*** FLOP *** [5s Jc 4d]
jussblaze420: bets 80
guzzijerry: calls 80
*** TURN *** [5s Jc 4d] [6h]
dbkpoker has returned
jussblaze420: checks
guzzijerry: bets 120
jussblaze420: raises 280 to 400
guzzijerry: calls 280
*** RIVER *** [5s Jc 4d 6h] [3c]
jussblaze420: bets 620
guzzijerry: raises 1800 to 2420 and is all-in


1. should i have folded on the river? the flop was dry, i put him on a jq type hand.

2. should i have bet more on the turn? any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Poker Stars $10+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG+1: t3000
MP1: t3000
MP2: t3040
CO: t2950
BTN: t2960
Hero (SB): t3050
BB: t3000
UTG: t3000

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is SB with A J
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t20, 4 folds, Hero raises to t100, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls t80

Flop: (t220) 5 J 4 (2 players)
Hero bets t80, UTG+1 calls t80

Turn: (t380) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets t120, Hero raises to t400, UTG+1 calls t280

River: (t1180) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets t620, UTG+1 raises to t2420 all in

Final Pot: t2420


Plz use the hh convertor when you post there is HH convertor text and then an expand button. Press the expand button, you'll find what you need.

I bet 150-180 on the flop. I bet 300 on the turn. I think your cr on the turn is fine I might make it more say 550 so that we can get paid more on the river. I bet 900 on the river I think worse Js are a huge part of villain's range. Villain's small bet on the turn might lead me to believe he has something like 67, 53, 43, a very weak Jx or something like 77, 33. Like I said there are so many worse Js in villain's range that I bet and happily get it in on the river.

so do u CB 3/4 pot when u miss the flop HU also? i try to keep my CBs the same whether i hit or miss unless the flop is draw-heavy, i'll bet 3/4 pot. is this a bad idea? this flop was pretty dry so i tried to lure him in w/ a small flop CB, thanks for ur input.

I think always betting the same on the flop is a HUGE mistake. #1 in online mtts you just don't run into the same ppl often enough for this to matter. #2 most mtt players are too stupid to even notice what you're doing. #3 if you always bet the same you're missing out on value or getting yourself potstuck way too often. On this particular hand I bet 2/3 pot for value vs mid pps and worse Js. Not only that we want some money in there now as we don't want to see a K or Q that might outdraw us or kill some action.

All postflop is pretty much a trainwreck, pre is good.
Bet way more on flop, lol @ betting less pon flop thatn pre. Bet on turn don't try cr.

so do u CB 3/4 pot when u miss the flop HU also? i try to keep my CBs the same whether i hit or miss unless the flop is draw-heavy, i'll bet 3/4 pot. is this a bad idea? this flop was pretty dry so i tried to lure him in w/ a small flop CB, thanks for ur input.

I bet 140 if i have AJ, AQ, AK, KQ etc, any hand hu yes.

wow, that makes a lot of sense. but lets say in a live cash game, would u keep the CBs the same?

Live cash is a totally different beast, but basically I would be less willing to even c-bet if I missed in live (esp OOP and multi-way), since almost everyone is a station and will call down w overcards, 2nd pair, pocket pairs, etc.

If you hit, value bet prob 1/2-2/3 pot on dry boards, and 3/4-pot on wet boards.

Obv this is very general and player dependant, but it gives some idea.

This is pretty similar to my online strategy as well.

Vs randoms on this flop and say I have AK I like betting closer to half pot if I missed. Vs 2nd level thinkers that I have some history with I'll bet closer to half pot whether I have tptk or A high. Also small bets to lure just aren't a great idea on this flop. #1 we have no idea how villain plays. In other words how do we know a small bet is going to entice a flop bluff raise? We simply don't. All I know is most randoms love to call call call so bet more for value. #2 we lose value vs mid pps and jx which he's probably calling up to a psb anyway. #3 we give a 2nd pair hand great odds to outraw us with 5 outs with a hand that's going to be very hard to lay down vs a random.

all great points, thanks a lot.