Villain is 57/4 over 23 hands

Preflop: does anyone prefer to just shove this pf given how limited our options are playing post flop with such a shallow stack? Or are we losing value by shoving here?

Flop: With those stats, I think it's quite possible that some part of the board has hit villain. I know it was a relatively weak c-bet but I didn't want to pot commit myself. Would anyone check-fold flop here?

Turn: As played, should we just check-fold?

Poker Stars $15+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t50/t100 Blinds - 7 players
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BB: t3290 M = 21.93
UTG: t1370 M = 9.13
UTG+1: t1555 M = 10.37
MP: t2410 M = 16.07
Hero (CO): t1425 M = 9.50
BTN: t2000 M = 13.33
SB: t1450 M = 9.67

Pre Flop: (t150) Hero is CO with A Q
3 folds, Hero raises to t250, BTN calls t250, 2 folds

Flop: (t650) 3 T 3 (2 players)
Hero bets t300, BTN calls t300

Turn: (t1250) T (2 players)
Hero?

I would shove this preflop for that stack size. Since villain seems loose-passive, checking the flop looks best but I'd probably c-bet just like you did. On the turn jamming is reasonable but I'd probably just give up. Def prefer shoving preflop tho.

I would play it the same and give up on the turn. Shoving wouldn't be all that bad either, but with 14BBs I usually just raise 250 here. With 12BBs I shove.

I only shove it with ~<11BB, you have position most of the time postflop so just raising seems like the most profitable way to play it.

From the CO I'd say it's going to be unexploitable to shove this pre. It's ok to raise sometimes, but my default is definitely to shove it from LP and raise it from EP.

Post flop is tricky, since any small stab is going to commit you. As nitty and shiity as it is, I think optimal is check-fold for the flop. As played I just shove the turn as a bluff and hope that some tiny % of the time I can fold out some mid PP type hands and possibly AK. You are pretty much committed by the turn anyways, so I just stick it in and hope for a fold.

I think both shoving and raising pre are fine. I would shove with <14BB's. As played I would c/f on the turn.

Open Shove.

If you open raise, you then become exploitable either by a resteal or a call/Villian having the positional advantage of first in the pot.

Guise, pls don't shove the turn. Unless villain is a backdoor flush master he has between 9-18% equity vs us or we are crushed/chopping. Accept getting stacked by t/3/pp and let him try to take away the pot.

While I understand that our stack size makes a C-bet an expensive proposition doesn't the flop texture make this a pretty good spot. With no draws and only 1 card at T or higher I see this flop as worth the expensive risk.

Preflop: I like mixing in standard raises along with shoves from this spot as to keep your opponents off guard. By not always shoving, every once in awhile you'll get a frisky move from the blinds with Ace rag and pick them off.

Flop: As played, I like check/folding as the standard and possibly check/raising vs someone who folds to pressure but picks up on weakness. Board is paired with low cards and rainbow, and many opponents are going to fire out a bet after your check with air as well.

Exactly this for me

I do the exact opposite, since from ep you're more likely to get callers and be OOP with a difficult postflop situation, and if someone shoves you usually have to fold (w/ aq and a 14+ BB stack) whereas when you open raise in LP guys are more likely to reshove on you wider. Thoughts?

i snapshove early and try to play poker here and there lp.but lp shove is unexpoitable.and i dont like to play poker anyways.

i go broke in the original hand against this guy.with a strong read i check behind/give up.

For the people who want to shove the turn, are you shoving for value or protection or blaffing on the turn?

The reason I raise rather than shove from EP is for these reasons:

1. It gives you chance to evaluate your options preflop. You can still get it in versus a loose re-shover, or you can fold if some nits go to war after you, and you still have a playable stack.

2. Raising in EP generally gets more respect, and so I could even argue you generate the same amount of FE by raising rather than shoving (obv villain dependent) but you don't have to risk your whole stack to do it, which means you get the benefit of #1 above.

3. By shoving from EP you have to get through far more players than you do in LP, and so it is inherently less +ev to shove from EP than it is from LP it may even be -ev.

The reason I shove from LP rather than raise is:

1. Too many people reshove you when your 2.5x it from LP, and raise-calling isn't ideal with AQo, I mean it's not bad, and if they're reshoving very wide then it's great, but more often than not they're not reshoving that wide, just wide enough that it sucks to have to call it off with AQ here.

2. It's gonna be +ev, wheras in EP it probably was breakeven at best.

What do you think? Fkked up logic?

I agree with sippin (surprise!). With less than 15 BBs, it just shove this from EP. From LP, I will often shove it, but now and then want to use my position advantage to raise. Your pf line is fine, but against a lagtard you are going to get into bad spots often.

On the flop, I think NJD is right. Just check/fold or possibly check-call small. Stacks are just too awkward to cbet.

[QUOTE=NJD77;15987335]The reason I raise rather than shove from EP is for these reasons:

Raising in EP generally gets more respect, and so I could even argue you generate the same amount of FE by raising rather than shoving (obv villain dependent) but you don't have to risk your whole stack to do it, which means you get the benefit of #1 above.

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I find this to be especially true. The 2.5x in EP gets mucho respect and doesn't get shoved over as much as you would think.