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03-17-2011 , 07:46 AM

POZnan

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Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 53

Poker Stars, $11 Buy-in (1,500/3,000 blinds, 150 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #8285752

MP: 467 (0.2 bb)
Hero (CO): 7,950 (2.7 bb)
BTN: 38,680 (12.9 bb)
SB: 2,892 (1 bb)
BB: 17,511 (5.8 bb)

Preflop: (750) Hero is CO with A

MP folds, Hero raises to 7,800 and is all-in, 2 folds, BB calls 4,800

Flop: (17,850) 5

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: (17,850) 5

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (17,850) T

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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Two shortstacks (SB and MP) were doing nothing but just keep folding.
BB is a solid player (13/10).

Should I push or wait to be probably 3rd?

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03-17-2011 , 08:05 AM

Bobson

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Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 133

id say fold this hand and call next hand when the shorty is BB and allin to bust him out + you have the chance that the shorty behind you busts this hand.

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03-17-2011 , 10:31 AM

D33P

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Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,988

5-handed, one fold to you, from the CO and with an Ace this seems a preety decent green light.

do it like charlie sheen: just one speed, go!

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03-17-2011 , 10:35 AM

R3qviem

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Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 22

A fold is terrible here. A push is mandatory. There is ~$5200 in the pot, and you are dealt a decent ace with only three players behind. Don't be results-oriented because you didn't hit: it was the right play.

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03-17-2011 , 10:55 AM

furo

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Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 29,639

i'd fold if BB calls wide calls we are really ICM ****ed whatever he calls with.

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03-17-2011 , 11:40 AM

Baobhan-Sith

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That's an obv fold for me. Fwiw I'd be concerned about BTN as well cuz of his huge chiplead; he could call just as wide as BB would. Also, keep in mind the super shorty is forced all-in (BB) next hand, and when he busts the BB will jump over you and force the other shorty all-in. If MP manages to survive in the BB chances are he'll be forced all-in in the following hand (SB) again.

I'd go with about ATs, AJo, 77+ here.

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03-17-2011 , 12:15 PM

jb1aze

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Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 268

With the MP stack, i think you can jam even more so because you get more ICM equity (may have just made that up) from the blinds. They are only going to be calling with the toppest of their range IMO because of the .2bb MP.

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03-17-2011 , 01:58 PM

Scorcho28

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Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 134

Shove is good here. A8 with 3 people left to act is a great hand, and there's plenty of hands that will call you that are behind. Short stack isn't a threat to you, and big stack might think you're trying to make a move and call with weaker than normal holdings. I make this shove all day here.

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03-17-2011 , 03:44 PM

rmfan31

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like furo said it depends almost entirely on bb.. u have way more fe than u should against randoms here, but u cant afford to get called.

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03-17-2011 , 07:19 PM

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Bobson

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Originally Posted by rmfan31

like furo said it depends almost entirely on bb.. u have way more fe than u should against randoms here, but u cant afford to get called.

id consider the Bigstack behind us too(?)

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03-18-2011 , 11:28 PM

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FreckleHead

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shovvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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