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06-25-2010 , 11:24 AM
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Full Tilt Poker $3 + $0.30 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t1500/t3000 Blinds + t400 - 3 players
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Hero (BTN): t71360 M = 12.52
SB: t51455 M = 9.03
BB: t160685 M = 28.19

Pre Flop: (t5700) Hero is BTN with 8 T
Hero raises to t7000, 1 fold, BB calls t4000

Flop: (t16700) T 9 9 (2 players)
BB bets t9000, Hero calls t9000

Turn: (t34700) 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t14566, BB raises to t144285 all in, Hero requests TIME

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06-25-2010 , 11:30 AM
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what does wug mean?

anyway this is more read dependent, but as I read this readless, it's a fold.

Any reads will create better responses
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06-25-2010 , 11:47 AM
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he never plays a 9 this fast. he prob has some kind of combo draw like QJs or 78s.
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06-25-2010 , 11:48 AM
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he never plays a 9 this fast. he prob has some kind of combo draw like QJs or 78s.
yeah exactly, i bet small to induce from draws and lower pears. you calling now tho?
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06-25-2010 , 11:50 AM
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yeah i call. sometimes you lose to a better 10 or a slowplayed overpair but more times he has a draw or is just trying to use his stack to bully you.
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06-25-2010 , 01:08 PM
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why can't he have a nine? I think BB's line is fine with one, it's not like he's making a big overbet at any point.

you got any reads here OP, if not you probably should since you're 3 handed at a final table...
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06-25-2010 , 01:10 PM
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why did we bet the turn? Please explain your thinking
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06-25-2010 , 01:34 PM
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You better not be bet/folding the turn when you only have 56k into a pot of 34k. This seems like a really goofy line to take with better Tx or 9x and your in good shape vs QJ, KQ, KJ, 87, J8. Checking back is an option but I don't like it bc I think you can get plenty of value from worse
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06-25-2010 , 01:53 PM
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totally dependend on reads and dynamics. if he was passive i might fold now. betting seems std.
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06-25-2010 , 01:55 PM
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why did we bet the turn? Please explain your thinking
level?
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06-25-2010 , 01:56 PM
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nope...what are you expecting to get value from?

You don't have a ton of chips...I just check back the turn a lot here with this much S/D value

and you still didn't explain why you want to bet the turn
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06-25-2010 , 01:57 PM
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ya im with ssnyc i wouldnt bet the turn unless i was expecting him to shove over it as a bluff
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06-25-2010 , 01:59 PM
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let me put it this way if you bet the turn here you should not need to be making a thread at all....

you now bet with no plan or idea what to do in position....if you think I was leveling or off in suggesting a check back than I retort by are you leveling by asking what you should do when he shoves?
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06-25-2010 , 02:02 PM
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nonlevels getting leveled by asking if they're levels itt.
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06-25-2010 , 02:02 PM
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let me put it this way if you bet the turn here you should not need to be making a thread at all....

you now bet with no plan or idea what to do in position....if you think I was leveling or off in suggesting a check back than I retort by are you leveling by asking what you should do when he shoves?
i did it to induce all draws/low pps to jam over my turn bet like i said....was just wondering if people would call now/agree with line as i dont think its a supereasy spot either way
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06-25-2010 , 02:04 PM
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nonlevels getting leveled by asking if they're levels itt.
chris i know youre really good at poker but can you actually offer decent advice instead of just posting **** like this in every thread?
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06-25-2010 , 02:09 PM
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i did it to induce all draws/low pps to jam over my turn bet like i said....was just wondering if people would call now/agree with line as i dont think its a supereasy spot either way
but you bet to induce...so the call should be a snap call...people cannot comment on calling now without having a reason for betting in the first place...

whether betting to induce here is good is very read dependent and hard for us to say...as the cards lie I am not sure we are nearly strong enough to be inducing here in a vacuum
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06-25-2010 , 02:11 PM
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+1 on checking the turn, +1 on snap calling as played.
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06-25-2010 , 02:12 PM
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yeah i agree that its a snapcall if i bet to induce was just wondering if people here are thinking in the same way as me like if they think randoms will take this line enough of the time with draws and other stuff which i beat.

villian was semi-competent fwiw he nvr open limped pre and seemed to be OK post but not great
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06-25-2010 , 02:13 PM
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If you b/f this turn your playing bad. Snap the all in now you bet.
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06-25-2010 , 02:21 PM
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i don't think he can. i'm pretty sure he's emotionally embittered for life due to a traumatic childhood experience where he fell into a pit at the zoo and was raped by a walrus.
have to say that is one of the best single posts I have ever read

well played

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06-25-2010 , 02:21 PM
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I was going to say fold, bc he prob has a 9 or a T and if he has a T his kicker is better than yours. Then I realised you'd put nearly half yr stack in already That's why I'd check back the turn. As played, idk you can fold now... meh spot.
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06-25-2010 , 02:29 PM
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Like everyone has said, if you bet the turn here you are snapping his shove. I think checking back is slightly better, since you have showdown value. Once you bet the turn you have over 40% of your stack in the middle, so unless you are bluffing (which you aren't) bet/folding is bad.

All this said, do you have reads? Was this a standard 9 person per table MTT? Were you raising the button a lot at the final table?
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06-25-2010 , 02:38 PM
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i don't think he can. i'm pretty sure he's emotionally embittered for life due to a traumatic childhood experience where he fell into a pit at the zoo and was raped by a walrus.
lol awesome
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06-25-2010 , 03:15 PM
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why can't he have a nine?
its right in the op:

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