this. as reasonable as you get, with or without compensation.

There is nothing in the pop up about addresses and phone numbers lol.. You guys are overreacting. Everyone on here has a facebook account and they share waaaaaaay more of your info with way more shady entities than what pokerstars is trying to do. This is pretty much par for the course of most companies with lots of user-data these days..

Stars will probably put the winner's face on some promo material for one year tops. If the winner is from an emerging poker market this could be huge for the games. If so-and-so from China wins we could see a huge influx of Chinese players. I think the Starcraft analogy works well.. In Korea the pro games are on TV and everyone gets to put a name and a face to the screen names. As a result there are middle school girls fanatically playing Starcraft.

I see no reason not to give more fuel to the Stars marketing machine.


Edit: Stars should definitely give a Pro-deal to the winner like they do for WSOP main. (and include that incentive in the pop-up)

Quite a lot of hsmtt regs live in the same city in mexico. It would be bad for all of us here if stars spammed advertisements saying there's a poker millionaire living in playa del carmen. The guy who did win would probably have to leave.

A couple years back I turned down the stars deal where if you wear their patch and cash the wsop main they give you a pca package. That was like $1500 ev and probably a bad decision.

pokerstars is illegal (possibly banned or hard to use anyway) in china, despite you seeing a few chinese players here and there at the tables.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/57...-china-744839/

AFAIK gambling is illegal in China so that would be bad news for that poor guy I'm afraid

So you guarantee me, if I win the WCOOP ME, I won't get a phone call from a poker magazine or website. Given by stars!? Doesn't seem so far fetched to me..

It seems pure logic that PS wouldn't put a complete phone number, name and address on there site for people to knock on there doors.. Anyway. back to issue at hand. Phone number or not. It doesn't matter.

It says nothing about a phone number in the pop up. If this happened you sue pokerstars and have some real long money.

good to know. seeing some random chinese accounts confused me.

This is really surprising and disappointing.

Perfect SN to chime in.

Heh, nice catch.

Being anonymous isnt the main issue here (although some players do value it highly). The biggest issue is the right to our images for whatever they want, and whoever they chose. I dont want pokerstars to be able to put my photo on anything they want for the next 100 years. Anybody who goes on to do anything important or note worthy in their lives is vulnerable to a lot of different scenarios out of their control because of thos

In the end its pokerstars product and they can do what they want with it, but the patrons will vote with their feet. We can still argue about the price of a couch when buying it at a garage sale, and we can argue with pokerstars and the product they offer. Saying they dont have to justify it is just a weak stance from yourself

And no 2p2 does not represent everyone in the poker community, but I dont think you'll find many people that are 'happy' to sign away their face and voice for the rest of their lives

if Pokerstars want a 'champion', then simply create terms that spell that out, not something so vague. It really makes their intentions look suspect

i dont use facebook mainly because of this exact reason. pretty sure im not the only one.

there have been plenty of reasons posted ITT so you should maybe look closer.

wonder if rafa nadal is bound by these T&C's - would cost him a fortune if he got to ft!

That's a good point Saul. I guess Ivey has played his last WCOOPME, and any other marketable name player for that matter.

What if Negreanu final tables? Stars can stop paying him, but still use his image in promotions forever? Maybe I don't understand the implications of this, but they seem far-reaching.

I guess there is a similar agreement for playing in the WSOP. Anyone know what it is.

no

Care to expound on that amazing post as to why not? I don't speak fine print.

Because the promotion is only based on this tournament, they wouldn't have him as a sponsored pro - he wouldn't do anything for them. They would have as much exposure as the WPT has when he plays.

I think everyone is blowing this waaay out of proportion. T&C's are typically written harshly to cover all bases. Some of you seem to think that they're going to turn your life into The Truman Show,

Saying winning the fair share of the prizepool is enough compensation is just not true.
If you want the winner to promote the game just add some kind of contract where the winner gets something out of the deal in a closed time frame i.e Live/Online $xxxxx Package in exchange for 1 year promoting the game.
Being able to use the image rights FOREVER for winning a tournament on your site is an outright abuse.
I really hope youmake things right as there's still a lot of time before the wcoopME

Let's keep this simple. If I FT, Stars can put up a billboard in downtown London with my picture on it and leave it up for 50 years and not give me a dime. True or no? That's what the T&C sound like to me. It's not just for using my name in their blog story on the event.

They already have a contract with him where he receives money in exchange for promoting stars. It would not be rescinded by something like this.

The contract in the OP doesn't include any work on the part of the player such as wearing patches at live events and Stars will continue to pay him to do so as long as they think it's a good investment.

replace billboard with pokerstars lobby and pokerstarsblog.com and i think you're on the right track.

the reasons posted are quite far fetched. seems most reasons against are that stars will install a 50 meter high neon arrow above your house with sign reading 'this guy has one million dollars in his online poker account'.

mate, for a lot of people i talked to its a huge issue to have their real name posted on the internet after winning big sums of money. how do some ppl ITT not understand that? not to mention all the other stuff that can come from this.

are you for real? some1 googles your name and knows that you've won 2 million or w/e within seconds. lol at your ironic comment.

people have been robbed and had their lives at risks for winning big sums of money at poker before. but im sure it cant happen again and stars needs dat extra rake.

^ It's not hard to see that it could be negative for lots of reasons (depending on where they live, private circumstances etc), e.g.: personal, career, security, tax, even giving away information about their playing tendencies (to opponents who don't connect their live play with a screen-name) ...