Lmao so true. Lets just scrap poker and play 10bb hypers all day long. Hyper kickoff. Big hyper 44. Hot 33 ? Scrap it we want hypers !!!

Even better hyper pko million ? Scrap freezeouts. More hypers now!

What’s wrong with you man

12.2% Rake on a satellite? I'm playing exclusively on Stars but I'm beginning to rethink it. I can't justify paying that much rake. What would Jesus say?

let's just hope that their strategy is to pump out as much money as possible & sell the company soon

Yea, those sattelites are not beatable anymore. They rake them way too high.
Sattelites should be rake-free or 5 % max, to attract more players & have bigger field in the target tournaments which would attract even more players to play the target tournament.

The big rake on sattelites is one of the main reasons why the Sunday Million was struggeling to reach a 1M prizepool. Since they started to rake rebuys on those $ 1.65 3x Turbo Sattelites where ~1000 players each week got their ticket from. Now those sattelites are dead because of the high rake.

Cant wait to see more rake increases. #MakePokerSlotMachineAgain

love how u need to click to even find the way too high rake in the lobby stars so fkn dumb lately its sick

Stars regs in 2020:

eSports payouts on Stars incomming

Not even 10% for first, prizepool bigger than last week but far less money on the ft. A job well done.

xaxaxa see the hyper satelites which are 5-15 min prior tournaments which starts with 12 bb stack and have 9.85% rake on them ,i was playing them for a while cuz i liked that they end fast but i realise how i can pay so much rake for 20 min satelite and after that pay again 12% rake .Just leave this raketrap and play as less as possible on this bulshet site ,when i look at payouts i want to throw up ,such a joke .

@luke

wp with payouts in mid stakes nice job

To whom are these sick payouts necessary? I just dont understand..The only thing is first place seems tempting and more players want to register..so wierd.

The payout structures are a disgrace, 8% to first in the million? lol what are you idiots doing?

they want less regs, so higher variance make sense.
Same spins, they could have done something like : 30$ buyin, max jackpot 15k$, and we would have exactly the same number of recs (but more regs), lower the rake and make it more esport friendly to watch.

Regs are bad at organizing and sharing %, (just take a look at how many people those spins schools/scam get enrolled, insanely high).
The more variance the less people can make a living of it,
And as a bonus, first place looks bigger for recs,
Higher ITM is also great for them? recs cash in more frequently.

It's not higher variance. The old structures had higher variance. IT's simply them distributing more money to the lower tier ITM spots while additionally paying out more players. TAke the extreme example where 100 people each pay $100+$9 rake to enter a tournament. At the start of the tournament PokerStars says, "Congratulations, you finished tied for 1st place and $100 has been credited to your account." ......while taking $900 for themselves in rake and the tournament ends.

That is a closer example to the type of structure they are pushing onto their players. It's not that variance is higher it's that the attainable winrate is lower for the stronger players in the tournament. I don't even think recreational loss rates are lowered as they don't normally play a real ICM savy game and their ITM rates are lower in general. It's just more money being recycled into rake for PokerStars and the structure is also incentivizing all the crazy stalling you see going on in their games now making the game much less enjoyable overall.

pretty sure trippling the field size increases the variance too. overall i agree with your post tho

but you're talking about one mtt while dozens of games got that new payout structure with even worse payouts than the milly.

FWIW i dont mind new payouts on SM FT and % field payed, imo while obv is not best solution is one mtt where lot of people will chase dream so i am ok with % of field ITM and FT payouts in one special weakly mtt

the huge problem i see is in payouts in all 22$-109$ daily/sunday mtts where first place is artificially pumped to look "big" and is min 2x second place(more the 3.5x in pkos) , and payouts for 3-9 place are very disproportional to first place money

this will imo have very very bad effect in near future (after scoop imo) because less and less regs every day will register and play this mtts/schedule because rake is high, payouts are bad (mid stakes mtts are basicly winner takes all crapshot) and overall playing experience is bad imo
all above after scoop, when fields are more then halved, will make very hard=impossible to maintain this fake impression ( that there are significant/big money to be won if u FT/finish #5-#2) that stars are still trying to sell to population, which will result with less and less players (regs and recreational) every day registering and playing and that will be downhill spiral that will be very hard=impossible to stop/revert

They're going to cut 5 million+ just in the sunday million alone this year. This was the first week, so it was a novelty and got more players. When it gets closer to the 1-1.1 million mark, the difference on the final table alone will be 90k+ per week plus the higher rake.
It was already mentioned here. The smaller and more distributed individual prizes will be raked more often again and again. I'm sure most of the cashouts in this tournament came from the final table from recs and regs alike.

And one goes to twitter and reads Negreanu worried about the future of poker, talking about something poker live highstakes, which affects less than 0.1% of poker players. What a joke.

Is anyone experiencing connection problems lately? I seem to regularly disconnect for a minute few times every session, even though other softwares are working without problems. Never had it on Stars ;s

No connection problem but the timebank is buggy for a lot of players. Not counting down correctly sec per sec. Sometimes timebank is jumping in 4-5 seconds steps. Really annoying

I dont think that this is a bug. Its more like a bad unannounced change from Pokerstars.

We are still in January. SCOOP is in May?? I don't follow.

^ But yeah theres already a ton of regs that quit after the new chests came in /supernova ended. A ton more will quit this year. It will basically only be eastern euros who can live off 10-20k a year and have no other option but to play poker left in the mid stakes. The high stakes crushers will still be there.