I don't see any difference between finishing at 3am (The average time those mtts are finishing) and 7am, you ain't getting a good night sleep before work. You might get 4 hours instead of 1 hour but we all should be getting 7-8 hours a day and thats very far from optimal.

If the mtts were to finish by 1am then that is a substantial difference but not 3am.

Pretty sure the abi on this turbo series is smaller than last years TCOOP, where there was quite a $1k ME, a lot of $720 events iirc and possibly multiple 2ks (not remembering super well)

14 buyins on this turbo series are $216+ and then there is 1 55rebuy and 1 109rebuy. Doesn't seem like many high stake events for a 74 event series.

$55/$109/$215 seems like great pricing for the majority of a series events. Will be ton of $5/$10/$20 satellites into events which gives micro-low stake players plenty of chances to qualify and also the buyins are big enough to interest players who play midstakes+, making the prizepool of many other midstake+ tournaments soar during the series.

I think they got it pretty right

You're always so backwards, some sleep is always better than no sleep, it's clear you haven't experienced it yourself or you wouldn't be saying that. Not to mention now that many of older players are 30+ now (when they started like me 2007+) it's even more crucial.

Umm what? There is a huge difference if the tournies finish 3AM or 7AM and you get up to work at 8AM.. 4+ hours and you are fine while if you sleep 1 hour your body is not rested, you're not even close to REM-sleep with 1 hour

Yeah that's ridiculous.

Not least, staying up till, for example, 3:00a.m. is somewhat compensated for if you get to an FT for a nice score.

An mtt that finishes at 7:00a.m won't have the bubble burst until say 3:00a.m.

It's not worth registering where that's the case.

if only low-raked regspeed time tournaments with a 4-6 hours timespan would be a thing ..

To add to all of these arguments no one mentioned cases when you FT bubble. There's nothing worse than FT bubbling at 6.00am, you get no money and no sleep, great.

Well... you get some money.. but yea I see your point

On stars that's ~5 buyins in a field of 5000, probably.

Lolol Spot on

Yeah, 4 hours sleep is "ugh I'm a bit tired today" while 1 hour sleep is "FML I hope I don't crash my car on the way in to work and did I remember to put pants on?"

Well anyone who takes their job seriously is not staying up til 4am playing poker that is a fact. I work a professional highly stressful job and me and others are not going to do that ever. If 4hours works for most poker players thats cool but don't try to say that is anywhere near the recommended amount of sleep for normal humans cos that is 7 or 8 hours.

Okay

Colin you should get tested for autism because your level of self centeredness is astounding

I know others have already responded properly but if a tournament lasts until 3am you will bust by 1am the vast vast majority of the time and if you do manage to FT it you will accept that 4 hour sleep day. If a tournament lasts till 7am you will routinely make it to 2-4am and not cash many buyins and just generally feel miserable about it and stop registering, not to mention the horror of 0-1 hours of sleep before having to work 8 hours.

You're right that you should strive for 8 hours of sleep, but that doesn't mean there's not a gigantic difference between 1 hour and 7 hours....

yes you are 100% correct. So maybe I was wrong

anyone who takes their job seriously should probably keep themselves from posting such a nonsense at forums, as well.

Every single year vast majority of players are chanting the praises for the beatiful two weeks when tournaments start 1 hour earlier due to the day saving time issue. And, not mentioning what all the smart people above have already said — this is a major factor when it comes to choosing tournaments specifically for players who do have their daily jobs.

+1 to start every blue major in evening at least one hour earlier.

and let's be honest here, only people with jobs have the money to donk it off at mtts and let em be a worthwhile game.

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currently in bounty builder $109

a min cash is $101 , so you lose money if you don't get a bounty

what exactly is it you guys are doing at pokerstars?

$50 of your $109 goes to prize pool.
Winning $101 from prize pool you return 2x original buy-in.

To regain another $50 you invested into bounty pool you need to win bounties, yes.


Any modding here?
Want to ask for 5card PLO and horse TCOOP satelittes.

Too many degens out there out there for this to be true. See: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...-amp-disputes/ Poker is a very popular game among scammers and other criminals, they generally don't have to show up for work.

Also the high-buyin tournament with the best value has the most office-hour unfriendly finish time at 8 AM CET on a Monday (Sunday Million), which goes against your theory. 2-day serie tournaments also have quite some fish in them, which can't be people planning to work the next day.

derp didnt even cross my mind ty

Starting time of Sunday million and Storm is the same for many years, because when PS created them, more players were from America and they did not change it when Black Friday happened imo. As it was discussed over the years, PS wont change it, because all players know that hours and it will have negative inpact for the game. PS decided to make East Asia/Oceania/Europe friendly special MTTs such as Pacific Rim and after some time PS made special tournaments to start every hour or hour and a half, so we have them. It is unfortunately that this hours wont change.