pretty sure recs love big starting chips (in terms of # of chips, not paying attn to # of bbs you begin with) and 50k starting is the more appealing tournament to them than 5k starting if the structure is the same

and saying 'getting to a 6figure stack actually means something when you start with 5k chips...' is basically you using rec logic (bc its the exact same when you hit 1mil chips off of 50k, and 1mil chips sounds more exciting than 100k to me, although neither really matter in the grand scheme of things as its just 20x starting obv) where they look at # of starting chips and arent looking at the big picture/short sighted/******ed/whatever you want to call it

so if recs prefer larger starting stacks, its the obvious play

I prefer smaller starting stacks and lower blinds because the BB maths is easier. But I'm a grinch.

This, the effective BB is the same regardless of stack size.
The play on party is pretty loose as a result of this (and 8 max helps)

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+1 for 25/50k starting stacks are sexy

+1 for disliking the hugely inflated numbers for no reason, but it seems too many people like it that it's a trend that's not going away. Of course it doesn't really matter in terms of #bb but as a guy who likes maths it just feels wrong when literally every number can be divided by 5 or 10 and no fractions would appear. Also after years of playing 3k/5k and sometimes 10k starting stacks it does feel annoying to play a tournament and not be in the money when blinds are 4k/8k.

Shouldn't really matter though.

Just to follow up on this since it has been awhile, we've been reducing Day 1 length in many Events and making some minor alterations to structures. We wrote all new structures for WCOOP (and plan to use them for the foreseeable future), so I consider these updates minor growing pains. Thanks for all the feedback guys.

Feeling better about Day 1 length since this post? Agreed that earlier time slots should play a bit longer on Day 1 as well.

Yes, these are both unpopular formats for recreational players. The Draw satellite only attracted the exact number of players required to generate one seat.

Because why not?

Not saying my brain hasn't melted, but the reasoning for this is pretty simple: we receive requests for higher stakes tournaments all the time. Some players communicated that they felt WCOOP was too small, so we added an additional Event and also these Side Events. There is no guarantee and we're not shining a light on them because we don't want to divert any money from WCOOP, but they're there in case players want to battle.

They used to show on the table before? Or in the main lobby?

We're kicking around some ideas to make satellites more flexible. The issue with a ticket is that it doesn't guarantee that it will be used in the intended tournament. In this case, it isn't feasible for us to create a unique ticket for each tournament and we want to ensure that money generated in satellites to an Event goes to that Event, so I'm not sure this is the ideal solution.

Again, growing pains with the structure. We'll be analysing results once the Series concludes. In the meantime, we're adjusting some Day 1 lengths on the fly.

Half price for the Million/Storm/Super Tuesday/Thursday Thrill have all performed extremely well. There is clearly something to this, but we don't have any plans right now to make a change. What do you think would be most successful if it was permanently Half Price?

We haven't been offering any Splash satellites to WCOOP Events. So far, results have been positive and this is the second complaint that has made its way to me.

We'll be reviewing the main schedule offering in the near future. When the time comes, we'll look back in the thread and collate feedback as one way of guiding our thinking for the changes.

All WCOOP tickets added to chests this month are added value on top of the normal rewards.

Yep, this was intentionally set to be a one day tournament, but lasted slightly longer than expected due to its big turnout. Event 80 has the same structure and has been changed to be a two day tournament.

I've asked Support to tone down the frequency of this messaging. Thanks for flagging.

This has been requested many times. It will be added to the regular schedule soon, but I don't have specific details to share yet. Glad you like it!

Thanks for letting me know about Spin & Go Max. I'll chase this up, but it is not something we can change overnight.

Thanks for the feedback.

We gave bigger add-ons in the WCOOP rebuy Events because players were forced to play much longer rebuy periods than usual. This made it feel like more of a reward. I'm not sure the same logic applies to hyper-turbo rebuys.

Sorry, no guarantee on it. Typically if it starts, it will have three players for a long time, depending on who they are. There is a real possibility the tournament could end naturally during this period. Besides, we do not want to shine a light on a high stakes tournament that isn't technically part of WCOOP.

Honestly surprised how contentious of a topic this is! The bolded is how I feel about it. If players 'feel' like 100K chips is a big stack in tournaments with a 5K starting stack, they'll feel the same way about 1M in the future. It will just take some time to adjust. Glad to see most of you prefer it, because it took quite a bit of time to make 50K/25K starting stack structures for all of the games.

+1 for big starting stacks. Just look at winamax structures. Ppl love to punt because they have many many chipsiez

+1

Does anyone know how to call a moderator now?

Yeah, its not cool to have people in chat calling people **** and not being able to call a mod.

You cannot call a mod now. I think the best you can do is email support with screen shots and relevant info etc.

#Amayacutbacks #Goodforthegame #MoreProfit

Not sure if this has been mentioned already, but it's pretty stupid to not allow people to play main event sats after winning a seat. I'm all for making the first seat a must-play but not allowing people to win multiple seats means you guys miss out on a ton of extra rake, which I'm pretty sure is priority #1 for stars now, so it really makes no sense.

I think it's a higher priority to not have overlay on the ME, and this helps. Also if you've been paying attention you'd have noticed Stars discourages winning players to play. Players who are able to win multiple tickets to the ME are likely winning players so no need to facilitate them. It's also good for players of the ME because worse players have a better chance te enter through a satty. Basically it's good for everyone expect for satellite grinders. I'm sure Stars doesn't give a **** about them.

It's not stupid, it's something you don't like.

yea i said that previosly is the most ******ed thing imo

if the policy is to have as many individual player win sits as possible obv the easiest and best way for all is:
- first ticket must play
- one mega sat day before main event with lets say 50/100 sits guarantied 215$ buy in rentry, where only players that havent already won sit can play it

so people who won daily sats, can play some more sats

but oh well is not the first time for stars to dont know what they are doing, and wont be the last

No, this is a very good change that should be made standard for all satties. The entire point of satellites is to let recs and people with small bankrolls have a shot at playing for big money. Not have overbankrolled regs grinding them and sucking up every last bit of ev.

The more recs make it to big events the softer those events are, the better the experience for the recs and the higher chances they will play again. Protecting recs in satellites is extremely important because the strategy is very particular and recs are prone to make way bigger mistakes in them than in normal tournaments.

How is a rec player with a 100 bankroll benefiting from winning a 10 dollar sat to the SM and being forced to use it?
It's the recs you care about right?
Wouldn't he be way better off turning that into T money and plaing 50 spin n goes?
Wouldn't that be better for Stars as well?

I hate when people use recs to describe what's best for them.

Most recs don't care (or need to care) about bankroll management. They tend to be net depositors after all, and the only bankroll management strategy without a near guaranteed risk of ruin for a losing player is to not play at all. One major reason recs play is for the chance to turn a little money into a lot of money. The chance to turn $10 into $200,000 is a very thrilling prospect. The chance to play in a famous and prestigious tournament such as the Sunday Million is a good goal. Turning $10 into T$215 isn't particularly the goal of a rec. Furthermore, how many recs play satellites hoping to unregister if they win? How many even know they can unregister? I'd expect the number is negligible.

Strictly speaking I care about myself. But I recognize my longterm winnings in poker are dependent on the longterm health of poker. The longterm health of poker depends on recs continuing to deposit. Therefore I care about recs.

Would the rec get more enjoyment from playing 50 spin n gos over playing a prestigious tournament with large guaranteed payouts? Maybe. But they can play 200 spin n goes with their initial $100 yet they chose to play a $10 satellite. If that's what they wanted to play, why didn't they do that in the first place? If you counter by saying they could play 50 small stakes MTTs, my response is the same. I doubt this hypothetical rec played a $10 satty to the SM because that was the only tournament running at the time. If they played the satty, it's because they wanted to play the satty.

Maybe PS would generate more rake from 50 spin n gos, but you also have to keep in mind that recs winning seats in satties is essential for the tournament ecosystem. More satty winners = larger prizepools = more entries from recs and regs alike and so on. More weak satty winners = more entries from regs = larger prizepools = ...

Answered from someone in another thread:

Will there be a VIP Bash Starscoins sat to the ME? If so when will it be? Saturday before ME Sunday?

Hey is the 530$ 250k gtd at 9am ET today a 1Day or 2Day? Cant find any info at the Lobby.
Very important for me as is cant play tomorrow

I am pretty sure 1-day tourney. No 2-day written there and the blind levels are shorter.
(but at the end I think the players can request to resume it next day)

I don't even play satellites. Honestly I don't get why this is even a discussion. Anyone who thinks about this without bias will understand that it's better to let more recs win sattelites than have regs winning them all. Yeah sucks for the regs who can't grind them anymore, but that's just too bad.

this and only this

i actually find it weird that some people actually think that changing the sat policy is bad for mtt poker.

Too many "Attention!" messages appearing on the tables. Should be reserved to to unique situations like when you had to pause all tournament (ddos).

Also, I couldn't find the "call moderator" button when south american players constantly were chatting in their language. How to act upon?

is it possible to play a wcoop event and reg a sat to the same event simultaneously?

Answer literally six posts above yours FFS!