I like the 5k starting stack i the new mtts, it will be better if the blind levels are 10min. The structure in 6max KO's and the new psko is good and they are good for the game in general because they attract more fun players.
Pokerstars remove all of FO's from 18 to 24 CET ($2-$11) and that will increase the variance for regulars. It will be good if Pokerstars bring back at least some of these tournaments. On munday I don't think i played mtt with less than 2000 peaple .
I think these changes had to happen slower.

why have they stopped most of the 4max shootout sng sats to tons of mtts that I now can't play?

Currently playing the $11 Mini Battle Royale (Early Edition) and this is a good structure. 10 min blinds leading to 12 after the first hour of play. This is what the Big's should be!

Wait until you get in the money. It's a sunday million structure with 12 minute blinds. I'll be shocked if the avg stack will be more than 20BB at the final table.

Hello, i used to play the sats 3x turbo in the schedule, also 2x and turbos. Anyone know why they remove this kind of sats?

Oh really? I've never played the SM so haven't paid too much attention to the structure, whoops! If that's the case then yeah I can imagine it's going to get very shallow!

Just seems good in comparison to the new big's and PSKO structures I guess haha! Still struggling to get over how bad 7/8/9 minutes are!

I have just opened up the Stars software and manually counted all the tournaments NL-Holdem up to 10hours ahead and these are the numbers:
2$-10$: 37 tournaments PLUS NUMEROUS timebombs;
11$-30$: 28 tournaments INCLUDING NUMEROUS 6Max TURBOS, PKOS (sometimes all together!)
31$-500$: 42 tournaments, most of them MUCH BETTER than any 11-30.
So you keep saying the up to 10$ range needs more tournaments is just nothing but A LIE! And I understand people who admonish you! If you keep saying lies aroung here, we will believe that you may be following some underhanded agenda.
So yeah. Put more tournaments in the 11$-30$ range with LESS 6MAX AND TURBO, spreaded around nicely around the timetable. THANK YOU!

At least 50% of the tournaments needs to be 9max you really need to consult a reg or two here.

+1000000

you mean for omaha games i presume ?

+1m

Yeah it's kinda decent.

Fix Bigs/ST/Thrill structure tho/prizepool.
320 wednesday?
too many 6max/hypers.
7r 3x turbo and 55r could be huge, but just not worth too play with rake-increase
How did 109r turbo survive the cut?
We just cleaned the scheduele up a bit and now it's littered again with 22$ 3stack 4k$ ect ect.
But most of all fix Bigs/ST. Start with 5k ss and antes so great, but shame we have to make up that time when deep. Nobody who regs wanted that to go faster.

I think they still exist, they just don't show up properly on the software just now. I noticed they didn't show up when I filtered for sats teh other day int eh SnG tab but if I chose all they appears. I was only looking at the 0-$3 range though so it may be different higher up the buyins.

Have to say I'm amazed at the number of people who play micro stakes on here, as 95% of the discussions pertain to sub 10$ buy-in and none of them concern buy ins of 55, 109 or 215 (and bigger).

Never thought there would be that many players grinding the small ones !

The BIGS that play during European evenings, starting from say 7pm CET, pretty much all lasted 7 hours. Average stack upon reaching final table was, from the 3 I saw, around 35 BB.

Not THAT bad, although still a bit quick.

I think my biggest problems with the VLT's is that they don't reflect the various stages of tournaments. I made a comment that in the H55 yesterday, despite being on the final table, we were still considerably far away from reaching the level requirement for 6 mins. This is badly designed because it fails to utilise the purpose of VLT's.

I think if we can categorise tournaments having various phases of play into something like the following:

1. Initial stages - While not often significant to the outcome of the tournament, this is a phase that should provide players with a chance to provide players with an opportunity to play deep stack situations and across multiple streets. Suggested Level Times:
Bigs 8
BB 7
Hots 4

2. Early Middle - Pre flop all ins become more common as stacks fluctuate more than the early stages. Pots become more significant. Play across multiple streets is still important, but should often end with a player being eliminated from the tournament. This stage should end with the bubble being burst, thus preventing stalling issues.
Suggested Level Times:
Bigs 9
BB 8
Hots 5

3. Middle - Average stack usually falls as a result of the bubble effect. This phase should provide players a chance to build a stack up for the final few tables.
Suggested Level Times:
Bigs 10
BB 9
Hots 5

4. Late - This phase I consider to be the final 3 or even 2 tables depending on the field size. Pots have significant impacts on players expected value of the prize pool. Play should lengthen to ensure the game is not a crapshoot.
Suggested Level Times:
Bigs 12
BB 10
Hots 6

5. Finale - This phase I consider to be around the bubble of the final table downwards. Pots have extreme impact on players expected value. Like the previous phase, the goal here should be able to provide players with a chance to play poker and not be resigned to their only option being to shove pre flop and hope to run good. A healthy balance of both is important obviously.
Suggested Level Times:
Bigs 15
BB 12
Hots 6

A few notes on my reasons for why I selected different level times across the 3 brands.

Bigs should be the best structure - vanilla poker designed to play multiple streets and a long game experience.

Bounty Builders have knockout prizes thus reducing fold equity and causing the average stack to stay fairly healthy. Play doesn't need to be as slow the Bigs.

Hots are obviously designed to be quick and fast paced. Great for players who want short sessions. The increase in level times later on should reduce the crapshoot factor, while not impacting too heavily on an increase in time due to the early levels being shorter.

Just my 2c's.

Apologies accepted Pfiew thx.

+100000000000000

It´s like changing the rules in Soccer from 11 man to 7 man teams in all the games? Thats just a no brainer!

Well I appreciate the response.

I don't even understand why we need a VLT structure at all. The same adjustments could by made by simply changing the degree in jump between the individual blind levels without even touching the level times. Just make slightly larger jumps early and then have it lessened throughout mid to late game.

The problem right now is the steeper blind levels jumps in late game, not just the inaccuracy on when the VLT kick in. They need to fix those jumps first or you will always have people stalling or taking advantage of them in some way.

this is what perfect structure for all the majors should look like

Depends...if blind change after 10 levels and after that after 12 levels its not ok, its similar with what we have now, u reach the 10 min level when u reach F2T

Hello Luke,

I hope you don't forget about us Omaha / Omaha H/L players when you get round to addressing the numerous concerns about the new schedule.

There are many players both reg and rec alike that prefer playing 9 handed over 6 handed and I think it would be unanimously agreed that there should be some full ring mtts on the schedule.

Omaha H/L is my main game and there are now zero full ring mtts in the new schedule, which seems crazy to me considering prior to the changes the majority of O8 mtts were full ring.

I really hope you can sort this out so we have something like a 50/50 spilt of full ring and short handed, turbo and non turbo mtts to choose from.

And omaha8 honeymoon is over.... 16.5$ 2.5k guaranteed had 325$ overlay in 3rd day with that schedule...

That 6max is just NOT working.. Plz STOP KILLIN omaha8

Just leave 4$ omania to 6max and otherwise old scheduled 9max back

I echo the thoughts of most of the other Omaha Hi Lo regs, this 6 max business on all games is a torturious idea. The games have devolved into a flipfest even worse than before.

Please make atleast 50% and the omanias 9 max again. I play for fun and an i'm old man, I can now only play 1-2 games at once due to the extra concentration required to chase every chip at the 6 max table. I will quit O8 completely and focus on horse and micro buyins now instead. I am not interested in being a rat on a 6 max wheel.

Same for courchevel high and hi lo, 5 card omaha, all ruined.

The structure in the splash games was insanely bad after addon.

The structure seems ok, the schedule is ok for low stake player such as myself but the 6max has ruined any enjoyment i had playing 4 tables at once, you'll be getting half the rake u got from me and I go back to 2.20, 1.10c and the daily $27 horse.

If I play 6 max 08 im only interested in playing hypers so the 3.30 KO hypers are a welcome addition.

I played yesterday all 6 max and every game was just a moronic shove fest.

Thanks for ruining any enjoyment I had playing this game.

just a quick feedback regarding the emptiness of the lowstakes schedule

i play most 3-11$ tournies on the bigger sites and as of 4.40 pm CET i have 0 Stars.eu tables open! Purely due to available volume and i do not think i ever had this during a full session in about 8 or so years of grinding!

not intended and fixed soon i hope

Oh yeah and one last thing, the payout structure is a ****ing nightmare jesus christ

really. PS must really believe we are all stupid and wouldnt see those bad changes since they are "hidden". not only we are seeying, but also their competion.

looks like they didint learned anything with fulltilt about how fast they can kill a business.
so good luck with finding a new job soon doing this horrific job.