[OFFICIAL] PokerStars MTT Thread
04-25-2016
, 09:26 AM
04-25-2016
, 09:29 AM
04-25-2016
, 09:33 AM
Luke, i know u want to collect data before u are considering changing structures. But if i remember correctly the biggest online series of the year is right around the corner and everyone expects a great daily schedule to go with it.
So time is kind of a factor here.
Just add 2min to every lvl in all regspeed mtt and we are good to go imo
Fine tune it after scoop if some stuff takes too long (which it probably still wont)
So time is kind of a factor here.
Just add 2min to every lvl in all regspeed mtt and we are good to go imo
Fine tune it after scoop if some stuff takes too long (which it probably still wont)
04-25-2016
, 10:06 AM
The way I see it wrt structures
Bounty builders fine as they are, sure they are somewhat less deep but still very playable
Rebuys are actually very good as far as I can see
Turbos great as well
Hypers stayed the same, which is fine
Regspeed mtt's (including progko) good as well
The biggest red flag are just the bigs imho. This went from being the best structured mtt's towards the worst ones. I think you've really underestimated/or overestimated better the effect of a 5k starting stack. Avg is just too small in endgames now. You seem to forget the structure in the bigs also had all his 'inbetween-levels' cut, which makes the structure also worse. Therefore you really have to compensate the end stage with longer levels imho.
I would suggest something like this:
Shortest levels (whether it's 7/8 or 9 mins) until either 250/500 or 300/600 is reached (so start level 16 or 17)
Mid levels (add one minute each) until bb 1500/3000 is reached (so start level 27)
Longest levels (add two minutes more) from 2000/4000 till the end
I also said this in the partypoker thread once, but the jump in structures from 1.5/3k to 2/4k is just too huge and I think it's a breaking point in the structure, therefore would suggest increasing the level time again at that point.
So you then basically would get either
7/8/10 minutes for smallest bigs
8/9/11 minutes for midstakes bigs
9/10/12 for highstakes bigs
I think this simple adjustment would already make a huge difference.
Bounty builders fine as they are, sure they are somewhat less deep but still very playable
Rebuys are actually very good as far as I can see
Turbos great as well
Hypers stayed the same, which is fine
Regspeed mtt's (including progko) good as well
The biggest red flag are just the bigs imho. This went from being the best structured mtt's towards the worst ones. I think you've really underestimated/or overestimated better the effect of a 5k starting stack. Avg is just too small in endgames now. You seem to forget the structure in the bigs also had all his 'inbetween-levels' cut, which makes the structure also worse. Therefore you really have to compensate the end stage with longer levels imho.
I would suggest something like this:
Shortest levels (whether it's 7/8 or 9 mins) until either 250/500 or 300/600 is reached (so start level 16 or 17)
Mid levels (add one minute each) until bb 1500/3000 is reached (so start level 27)
Longest levels (add two minutes more) from 2000/4000 till the end
I also said this in the partypoker thread once, but the jump in structures from 1.5/3k to 2/4k is just too huge and I think it's a breaking point in the structure, therefore would suggest increasing the level time again at that point.
So you then basically would get either
7/8/10 minutes for smallest bigs
8/9/11 minutes for midstakes bigs
9/10/12 for highstakes bigs
I think this simple adjustment would already make a huge difference.
04-25-2016
, 10:13 AM
04-25-2016
, 10:15 AM
Quote:
I have a small remark about the Bounty Builders.
As we can see in the new schedule higher buyin mtts (82 etc)have the last levels stretched to 10 and 12 minutes where at the lower buyins they stay at 9 minutes. Here is my remark about this:
In Bounty Builder 82 the 10 minute levels start at 15K/30K and the 12 minute levels at 100K/200K. The starting stack is 5K, the guaranteed is 10K, but there is an average of 500 players who play this mtt every day.
So around 500 players on average with 5K stacks is 2 500 000 chips in play.
When the longer level of 10 minutes kicks in, there will be less than 100 bbs in play, and when the 12 minutes level kicks in, there will be less than 20 bbs in play. Even if 1000 players played the mtt the 12 minute level would almost never be reached.
I think the longer levels should start much sooner because now they are just numbers in the lobby without added value.
As we can see in the new schedule higher buyin mtts (82 etc)have the last levels stretched to 10 and 12 minutes where at the lower buyins they stay at 9 minutes. Here is my remark about this:
In Bounty Builder 82 the 10 minute levels start at 15K/30K and the 12 minute levels at 100K/200K. The starting stack is 5K, the guaranteed is 10K, but there is an average of 500 players who play this mtt every day.
So around 500 players on average with 5K stacks is 2 500 000 chips in play.
When the longer level of 10 minutes kicks in, there will be less than 100 bbs in play, and when the 12 minutes level kicks in, there will be less than 20 bbs in play. Even if 1000 players played the mtt the 12 minute level would almost never be reached.
I think the longer levels should start much sooner because now they are just numbers in the lobby without added value.
, and rebuys have a nice structure because of rake obv... Not gonna post here anymore seems like a waste of time anyway
04-25-2016
, 10:18 AM
04-25-2016
, 10:21 AM