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09-06-2011 , 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by WTPX
Didn't receive an email regarding te compensation. To which adress should I send an email?
Probably just support@pokerstars.com I would imagine
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09-06-2011 , 08:48 AM
Full refund + bonus is the least people should be getting. As mentioned previously many people had great equity in tournaments and sngs before the freeze and returned to be busted or their equity dwindled into nothing.

Its not fair that many players have greatly benefited from this while other players will only get their tournament buy in back. ICM could be complicated so perhaps a large bonus could be the answer.
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09-06-2011 , 09:05 AM
anyone else having problems connecting today?
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09-06-2011 , 09:10 AM
should definitely be some adjustment to ICM for skill edge
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09-06-2011 , 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by theguru
quit hating on everyone in this thread
Sorry, was just a little upset(spelling-fail?) last night.

I got no hate in me.
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09-06-2011 , 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ukanttouchme
anyone else having problems connecting today?
PS works fine today here...
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09-06-2011 , 10:57 AM
I wish stars was publicly traded company, we could pound their nuts off today.
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09-07-2011 , 02:28 AM
How come there is no more talk on this issue? Did anything happen or has it been resolved in anyway?
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09-07-2011 , 05:26 AM
stars should give everyone who disconnected their ICM stack % when they died out.

players of course will think they are deserved more for skill factor but they shouldnt, coolers and suckouts DO happen they arent deserving more other thank their % by chipcount.
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09-07-2011 , 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark275
coolers and suckouts DO happen
Good players can do this as well
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09-07-2011 , 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by higher voltage
should definitely be some adjustment to ICM for skill edge
Not sure this would be a workable idea in practice. For a start they wouldn't be able to determine the skill of a player who'd only taken part in a few games on Stars, and even if someone's played 100 or so MTTs on the site, it's not enough to determine skill.

I also don't think it would be good for them to be email players who've been losing on the site to say their compensation has been reduced because they suck at poker :/
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09-07-2011 , 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by LouB21
Not sure this would be a workable idea in practice. For a start they wouldn't be able to determine the skill of a player who'd only taken part in a few games on Stars, and even if someone's played 100 or so MTTs on the site, it's not enough to determine skill.

I also don't think it would be good for them to be email players who've been losing on the site to say their compensation has been reduced because they suck at poker :/
That's actually such a bad idea(skill edge adjustment), dont even know where to begin. Not sure if he was serious though...
Anyway, from another thread it looks like Mement Mori got an ICM refund which is great for those of us in similar position.
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09-07-2011 , 11:47 AM
is there really no statement until now? i am really curious how they will manage this issue. there is no way that i just accept the standard refunds as usual. i already sent an email and didnt receive any response yet. this is a completce farce and nothing else. FACK im out
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09-07-2011 , 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by BryanS-PS
We have now resumed play again.

After we re-enabled play previously, we discovered in short order that players who used RSA tokens couldn't get back onto the site. We re-paused all running tournaments while this problem was sorted out.

We believe the problems are now completely resolved, and ask that anyone still having any issues logging in, playing, etc. to contact Support.

As mentioned previously, we'll evaluate compensation requests as soon as possible, ideally responding within 72 hours.

i dont use an RSA token and was unable to log in. I was also playing a cash game which was unaffected so the error was clearly not on my end.
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09-07-2011 , 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by blackforeststill
is there really no statement until now? i am really curious how they will manage this issue. there is no way that i just accept the standard refunds as usual. i already sent an email and didnt receive any response yet. this is a completce farce and nothing else. FACK im out
From another thread:

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Originally Posted by mement_mori
Just got this from Stars:

We have calculated your refund using an equity based method. For the purposes of the calculations below, we must assume that all skill is equal. We cannot quantify poker abilities and PokerStars is not in the business of categorising players and ordering them through perceived skill level. Nor can PokerStars quantify the mindset of each player still remaining in the event, therefore all skill is assumed equal.

In essence, the calculation is based on the amount of chips at the time the server was restarted (20:39ET), chances of getting through to the next shoot-out round, combined with the chances of getting through to the final round and its related prize money for both rounds.

At the time of the restart, you had 8709 out of the total 30,000 chips in play on your shoot-out table. Since we assume all skill is equal, your chances of making it to the next shoot-out round are 29.03% (8709 / 30.000).

If you would make it through, 5/6 times you would finish 2nd to 6th in the next shoot-out for $2721.60. The other time (1/6), you would win and advance to the final shoot-out table. The average for the first 6 payouts is exactly $32,063,10.

This combined, would bring your total chip equity up to $7611.85 at the time of the restart. This is derived from: $2721.60 x 5/6 (=$2268), plus the $32,063.10 x 1/6 (=$5343.85)

However, the chances of making it through to the next round are 29.03%, leaving 60.97% for finishing in the payout section of $637.63 of the tournament.

All in all, this would bring your total refund up to the following:

29.03% of $7611.85 = $2209.72
60.97% of $637.63 = $388.76
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$2598.48
-$637.63 (prize money already received)

Total Refund: $1960.85
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09-07-2011 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by blackforeststill
is there really no statement until now? i am really curious how they will manage this issue. there is no way that i just accept the standard refunds as usual. i already sent an email and didnt receive any response yet. this is a completce farce and nothing else. FACK im out
pokerstars is going out of there way to ignore that this happened and hope that people who deserve compensation don't realize it and contact them, @pokerstarsblog didn't even report the winners of the tainted WCOOP events. there should really be a lot more outrage over how pokerstars has conducted themselves with this whole thing. It's clear that they would be handling this better if they had a major competitor right now.

pokerstars went out of their way to help mement_mori for some good publicity but there are also scores of other people who have requested refunds and haven't been contacted yet
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09-07-2011 , 12:52 PM
did any1 get their refunds yet? waited 48 hrs but nothing
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09-07-2011 , 01:01 PM
BRpokah which thread is that?
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09-07-2011 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BRpokah
From another thread:
equal skills LOL. ok, but now i know that i get paid for the 1st place proportionately for every 180mans i played at that time (around 20), right? i think i have to calculate now the whole night then. i also asked why i was treated as allin at some tables with 15-20BB. was i flipping only antes there? do i really have to check every single HH there even if its their f***** fault?! people who don't complain get no compensation then? that is just ridiculous.

they even don't post on 2p2 anymore. i want a news pop-up which exactly tells me what happened. if we don't know who else should? i'm even not content anymore with those greasy refunds. i want at least double vpp.
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09-07-2011 , 02:12 PM
Another black eye for online poker.

Anyone who continues to play on Stars after this deserves no sympathy the next time Stars screws up...
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09-07-2011 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by highpsiguy
Another black eye for online poker.

Anyone who continues to play on Stars after this deserves no sympathy the next time Stars screws up...
believe me...if you cant play on Stars you cant play on any site.

Lets wait and see how they handle this situation.If they give everyone their ICM equity back there's no reason to complain imo and I really doubt they are planning to refund only Mement Mori.
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09-07-2011 , 02:58 PM
They did say 72 hours and it has only been 42. I am still hopeful.
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09-07-2011 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by FatalError
pokerstars is going out of there way to ignore that this happened and hope that people who deserve compensation don't realize it and contact them, @pokerstarsblog didn't even report the winners of the tainted WCOOP events. there should really be a lot more outrage over how pokerstars has conducted themselves with this whole thing. It's clear that they would be handling this better if they had a major competitor right now.

pokerstars went out of their way to help mement_mori for some good publicity but there are also scores of other people who have requested refunds and haven't been contacted yet
lady luck likes to hang around with those that work the hardest
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09-07-2011 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by blackforeststill
equal skills LOL. ok, but now i know that i get paid for the 1st place proportionately for every 180mans i played at that time (around 20), right? i think i have to calculate now the whole night then. i also asked why i was treated as allin at some tables with 15-20BB. was i flipping only antes there? do i really have to check every single HH there even if its their f***** fault?! people who don't complain get no compensation then? that is just ridiculous.

they even don't post on 2p2 anymore. i want a news pop-up which exactly tells me what happened. if we don't know who else should? i'm even not content anymore with those greasy refunds. i want at least double vpp.
wtf
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09-07-2011 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BRpokah
believe me...if you cant play on Stars you cant play on any site.

Lets wait and see how they handle this situation.If they give everyone their ICM equity back there's no reason to complain imo and I really doubt they are planning to refund only Mement Mori.
we can be really thankful that well-respected like mement mori post their emails. its a reference now. stars is gonna handle this situation fairly for everyone within the next 30hours, right? its stars, the best pokersite of the world.
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