12 hands at the table no history no image, villain is a 6$ ABI player with 50% roi in 1,5k mtts.
He played 1 hand at the table called pre,folded flop to cbet





You can discuss on any part of the hand.

Thx.

Think I would prefer to bet the turn and fold if he raises and then re-evaluate on the river if he calls. I also think that once you check on the turn that you should fold to his bet, not much is going to make you happy on the river apart from a Queen and it is always hard OOP.

Only 3b pre if you're planning to 3b/5b. I'd just flat without a dynamic though. Flop is std, turn I would b/f. As played turn call is fine and river fold seems fine but tough to do. He might bluff some hands here but def could have 99, QJs, and at least a couple combos of ATs/KTs.

My line of thinking was he could bet A8-A5 KQ or JT on the turn but a 6$ player wouldn't fire those on a blank river...or any river actually that doesn't hit him.

I feel like outleveld my self and played it like ****...

OK, I use to be of this thinking, but I think the 3-bet is fine considering you get a lot of flats from weak opponents and you can play pretty decent post. If he 4-bets, yeah it sucks and you're losing value in your hand, but I think the merits of 3-betting outweigh the negatives. All that being said, I think flatting is fine as well.

Don't know why we're checking the turn. Bet/fold for sure.

Yeah I really don't have a problem with 3b just wanted to say that 3b/f shouldn't be an option. Def not a bad spot to start building an aggro image and agree that we'll get flats decently often and folds a bunch too.

Just prefer to flat I guess.

If you are going to 3bet pre then give villian a chance to fold. You gave him 11200:3600 to call, which is about 3:1, so if he can win 1/4 of the time by calling then it's right for him to call. There are a lot of players who will call your 3bet with atc here b/c they have the button and are getting a great price to call.

Flop you make a standard cbet of about 40% of the pot which seems fine.

On turn if you are checking then you should be looking to check/call. Checking the turn might very well give villian the idea that you don't have an ace, but when you call it becomes pretty clear that you have an ace or else a pair and gutshot.

On the river when you check and he shoves it looks like he has a strong line but I would be calling here. There is just no way I'm check/calling the turn and then check/folding the river bet of 31,948 into 54,752, not including his river bet. You need 31,948/86,700 or about 37% equity to call. The only logical hands that villian can have that will scoop you are QJ, 99, AA, or a hand with a T in it. I would think he would shove any Ax here after you check/calling the turn and checking the river, so you will chop a decent amount here. I also would not be surprised for him to roll over a complete bluff, since he might not think you have an ace and it looks like there is some fold equity.

Hint: We can 3b/f for value in some situations!

Not sure about post, dunno if I like b/f turn. Check/eval seems fine tbh and I'd probably just c/f

Elaborate a bit? In this spot do you think flatting is better than 3b/f? And do you think 3b/f is better than 3b/5b?

I guess 3b/f is prob better than 3b/c if villain jams though.

Not really sure what I'd do with no history, but hardly ANYONE folds to 3bets and will peel a ton worse IP, plus we take the initiative OOP which is pretty cool too I think. I think readless with no history I'd just 3b/f actually, let him peel really wide. If he wants to 4b airballs with no history and own us then so be it, but I think the majority of the time they will peel worse than 4b airs

there are more value hands that villain has in his range in this particular spot that outweigh his bluffs to make this a c/c profitable on the river. he could possibly be bluffing but its highly unlikely villain will take a hand with showdown value and turn it into a bluff.
also our range is pretty capped imo in villains eyes so it puts
him in a pretty tough spot to bluff.

anyways i'd just c/f. i like the line bet otf, b/f ott best.
also i like calling pre and occasionally 3b/f vs unknown.

nutlow card to c/c,
b/f or c/f turn

As played, the line isn't bad. I'd prefer bet ott and c/f riv. We getting value from some weaker Ax and draws like 87s.

Not sure its true sunny vs any somewhat good opponent. Flatting is also bad vs aggro guys, though barely its all the case since its $6 abi player in $22 party.

Generally Tbone is right 3b/5b > flat > 3b/f.

Why isn't c/c the flop an option? Think it has a lot going for it given how we sized preflop.

Flatting here is so much better than everything else. We can win on lots of textures by leading/betting turn, c/r, c/c then doing stuff on turns. Its a soft game, just ignore any thoughts of 5 betting (lol) and just use your sack to rape everyone.