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10-31-2008 , 08:24 AM
First few hands of this tournament.. Comments on all streets would be appreciated.
Full Tilt Poker $4,000 Guarantee No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 9 players
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BTN: t1615
SB: t1455
BB: t1395
UTG: t1615
UTG+1: t1470
UTG+2: t1980
MP1: t4085
Hero (MP2): t1385
CO: t1875

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is MP2 with J J
4 folds, Hero raises to t95, 2 folds, SB calls t80, 1 fold

Flop: (t220) 5 T T (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t80, SB calls t80

Turn: (t380) 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t145, SB raises to t290, Hero requests TIME, Hero calls t145

River: (t960) 6 (2 players)
SB bets t750, Hero calls t750
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10-31-2008 , 09:21 AM
FWIW, I think on the river that he doesn't do this with a ten, the bet's too large. Same for 55, 88 and 66.
I don't think he would flat pf with QQ-AA. So I guess he has something like A8 or A5 or 99 or maybe 77?

Which means that I should probably just ship on the river right?
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10-31-2008 , 09:23 AM
buyin?

i c/c the turn and c/c the river against reasonable opponents who are arent minraising me on the turn w/ A8
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10-31-2008 , 09:23 AM
Yeh ship on the river 100%
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10-31-2008 , 09:26 AM
It's a 10+1
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10-31-2008 , 12:17 PM
simpleee ship
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10-31-2008 , 12:19 PM
when someone flats your flop bet oop here you actually put them on a pure float??

bet more on the flop fwiw.

and i just noticed we are in pos, i check back turn, and call a river bet.
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10-31-2008 , 12:24 PM
well they can be floating here given that op has bet approx 1/3 psb on the flop but yeah i check back flop and call river bet
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10-31-2008 , 12:27 PM
yeah, for the most part i think OP played this hand wrong on every single street to be honest

flop bet more, so you dont find yourself in awkard spots on the turn or river where you have no idea where you are in the hand, of course random floats come about when you bet 1/4th the pot

turn, if your reasonably sized flop bet gets flatted his range is 22+, Tx, diamond draws, and random floats, which..w/e, so we check back in the case that he has Tx, which is highly possible because people love broadway cards and a ton of those have T in them. betting serves no purpose but to bloat a pot...use your position to your advantage and keep the pot small.

you might succesfully get this guy to bluff off all his chips to you because your line makes absolutely no sense for any hand except like a donk with quads or 55 or something.
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10-31-2008 , 12:44 PM
I agree with Areaman.

I'm a little curious why you (fulltilt99) think villain wouldn't bet the pot with a T on the river. I think it makes perfect sense because your line and range could easily have an over pair since you've bet light every street. If I have a T here I'm value betting the river somewhere around 75-100% pot.

Your pre-flop bet is fine, flop needs to be at a minimum 1/2 pot so around 110-150 range. I like betting the turn because villain could have a flush draw so bet about 60% pot (225 here) and see the river.

I would definitely c-c the river on this board but wouldn't be at all surprised to see a T9 or JT.
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10-31-2008 , 04:18 PM
bet more on flop, check turn call river. To everyone who said ship river, um no. Hes snapping with a 10 and prob folding everything worse even tho its a low buy in.
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10-31-2008 , 04:40 PM
155 on the flop. Check back the turn. Snap call a non diamond river. Evaluate bet size on diamond river.

If checked to twice, value bet for sure IMO. Anyone's thoughts on that?
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10-31-2008 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by areaman
yeah, for the most part i think OP played this hand wrong on every single street to be honest

flop bet more, so you dont find yourself in awkard spots on the turn or river where you have no idea where you are in the hand, of course random floats come about when you bet 1/4th the pot

turn, if your reasonably sized flop bet gets flatted his range is 22+, Tx, diamond draws, and random floats, which..w/e, so we check back in the case that he has Tx, which is highly possible because people love broadway cards and a ton of those have T in them. betting serves no purpose but to bloat a pot...use your position to your advantage and keep the pot small.

you might succesfully get this guy to bluff off all his chips to you because your line makes absolutely no sense for any hand except like a donk with quads or 55 or something.
+1.
I started writing a response, when I realized it was essentially this:
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10-31-2008 , 05:32 PM
I bet half pot on flop given paired board, check behind turn, and call most rivers.
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